Loma is good but doesnt have that dog in him like Tyson Fury

It's definitely not nice, especially not for a smaller fighter, but I'd wager that's the least hugging he's done in a twelve-round fight.

 

Unknown.

But to get to the draw on the scorecards, Loma probably needs only five or six more punches in the right spots. If he was younger the outcome would have been different IMO.

 

I think it started out that way but he increased the octopus grabbing as it progressed as Loma was hurting him and beating his ass. Loma's physically stronger P4P for sure and despite the huge size and weight difference probably just stronger in general. He's also got a better chin. Is more powerful than him. Is much more skillful. In fact, he's superior at everything to him other than hugging and weight bullying.

 

And bodypunching.

 

Those long right hands to the body really astonished me. That just looked wrong, Haney should not really have been able to land those without getting countered to death and there's a chance that he would have been cured of that punch by prime Loma.

I found it genuinely wild. I may have mis-scored round 1 such was my surprise.

 

That too. I've never been that impressed with Haney. He's always just been a massive weight bully beating up on blown up 126, 130 and average-sized 135 pounder. He's good and got skills but he's not and never will be near as skilled or as good as Loma.

He's never fought a single prime world champion close to his size. Let him try and go and unify all the belts individually up at 168 against opponents who weigh three divisions more than him and have huge reach advantages on him like Loma did with three of them at 135 (and he should've won them all tonight) and see how that works out for him because that's how far he'd have to go up to be giving away those kinds of physical advantages. I bet my life he couldn't even come close to doing it at 147

 

He's going to find it ropey at 140 I think, but being honest, I don't agree that Loma is 126lbs any more. He' struggle. He'd do 130lbs still I reckon but i'd be astonished to see Loma make 126lbs I think he'd upset himself doing that now.

For Haney, I do rate him higher than you and I think that was a good Lomachenko he beat last night. You box at the weight you make, that's the world we live in.

I think Lomachenko has a chance to get a rematch here, I don't think it is particularly likely, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility one of the alphabets will order a rematch and the clamour might just drag another along for the ride. That could be enough. If he got it, surely, surely he could find ways to negate that right hand to the body.

 

He will and I want to see him get laid out on his face up there

If Loma was rehydrating as much weight as Haney is weighing what he (Loma does in the ring now) he'd be down at bloody 118 if not 115. I'm not saying he can make those weights but he looks the picture of health on the scales at 135 and virtually no different to what he looks like in the ring. 130 would be a piece of **** for him to make and he could do 126 if he really wanted to. Loma is a blown up 126 pounder. He has a tiny frame.

Haney is a good fighter for sure and he has good skills but he's not special in that regard at all. Loma is not only special he's exceptional. Take away Haney's massive weight and reach advantages and he's not near as good.

I don't even want to see a rematch if it's in the US or if there;s a singe US judge working the fight. Loma should never fight in the US again after the disgusting treatment he's received from the refs and judges over there many times now (only once with the ref though)

 

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The only other place the fight gets made is the middle east...and....being honest

I don't think Lomachenko was cheated by America last night. I think the cards were OK. I think there's a very clear case to be made for Haney to get five rounds by any reasonable criteria and after that, it can be about as little as where a guy is sat though obviously 116-112 is nonsense based upon the fact that round ten was the clearly Loma's round. Correct that and you have three decent cards IMO.

I am going to score it again, because most folks have scored round one the opposite way to me and who knows what I'll come up with, but I have one round of disagreement with two of the judges. I'm waiting to see a ringside scorecard - not a guy saying "such and such won", an actually card - that shows Lomachenko a wide winner though and a couple of those would defo be worth seeing.

 

I mean they can do it in September. I don't think there were any life-changing beatings handed out here, they will be the same fighters, basically.

 

I don't even recall Haney catching Loma with a single eye catching jab all night. Nor barely any eye-catching impactful head-snapping shots upstairs either. Haney was supposed to have this amazing jab but Loma took it away from him with ease and had him swinging and missing and falling short all night