Bob Arum: 'The idea that he [Fury] hasn’t had permission to fight here [in the US] is baloney'

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  1. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    "Arum, Fury's co-promoter, said: “The idea that he hasn’t had permission to fight here is baloney.

    “But he has to go to the US embassy and be interviewed, and then they’ll give him his visa. But he has been reluctant to have that interview. We have the person he has to see – there’s no reason he’ll be kept out of this country.”

    Asked why he had resisted attending that interview, Arum responded, simply: “He’s Tyson Fury.”




    Now that is funny. Why would Fury lie about being banned from entering the country? Why wouldn't he just go and have that interview at the US embassy if it's so easy then? Arum is probably pissed at Fury for his recent comments. Bear in mind, Arum is a lawyer. He knows what he is talking about. If it's that easy to have granted permission to enter the US, why doesn't Fury just go ahead and does it?

    The interview would be no doubt about his association with Kinahan. Is he still loyal in some way so he doesn't want to give any information away that might incriminate Kinahan? Or is he afraid of getting on the wrong side of Kinahan?

    Being a criminal is never a good idea, folks.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If he goes to the US embassy he'll end up having to kill 50 CIA agents trying chop him up into a bin bag. You do realize Biden is under blackmail from Ukraine with their corruption ties?

    Then puppet Sunak will try to get the old MET Police to arrest him but 500 clans of fine gypsy men will prevent that.

    Why would Fury go to the US anyway. There are no opponents there. Usyk, Nnganou and AJ are the only things on his list because they can generate cash.
     
  3. Dubblechin

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    Tyson Fury tried to board a flight from Europe to the U.S. twice and was told he couldn't board the plane.

    Same with Tommy Fury. Same with Matthew Macklin and others. According to a U.S. spokesperson, there are 600 foreign individuals on the list. The U.S. didn't notify people they are on the list. Those people just find out when they try to board flights to the U.S., which Fury, Macklin and Fury's younger half-brother tried to do and were turned away.

    The U.S. is paying $5 million for information that will lead to the arrest of Daniel Kinahan. Tyson Fury can enter the country if he gives them information, and Fury doesn't want Dublin's "Al Capone" to think he's cooperating with the government.

    So, he doesn't enter the U.S. He is effectively banned.

    Bob Arum may be a lawyer, but he also thought Deontay Wilder's contract for a third Fury fight wouldn't stop the Fury-Joshua fight in Saudi. Shows what he knows.
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    So he is afraid then. You really have to have criminal proclivities to think that hanging out with mob bosses is a smart idea.

    Well, Fury has admitted himself that he never went to school so there you go - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    And as for Arum saying the arbitration won’t be a problem - lol. God forbid that a sneaky lawyer and boxing promoter with literally over half a century of experience in both fields is lying. No, he surely doesn’t know such basic stuff. It surely wasn’t used to create interest in the Wilder fight, oh no. The court order was served to Arum days before he made that statement to lead the public down the garden path and generate interest in a Wilder trilogy that initially nobody wanted to see after the way Fury destroyed the dosser in their second bout.

    But no, not only Arum doesn’t know his law, he doesn’t even read court orders that are addressed to him.

    Absolutely brilliant. This is probably one of the stupidest things I’ve read here.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing has never been for choir boys, friend. The number of boxers who have hung out with criminals, worked with criminals or weren't/aren't outright criminals themselves is probably in the 99th percentile.

    Going back more than a 100 years, with guys like Arnold Rothstein and Abe Attell ... if not further.
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury and Arum getting ready to part ways.....

    Fury is expecting Arum and Warren to be loyal lapdogs for him and give carte blanche to his behaviour

    Arum wants the fool to stop wasting time

    Who throws who under the bus first?
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    It’s funny you mention choir boys. Holyfield was a church boy himself. Or speaking of the dosser just a second ago: his whole bad boy persona is just an act, the guy used to be a waiter, lol.

    In any case, it’s such a lazy argument to defend Fury’s criminal ways. It’s one thing to not be a straight A student and a choir boy, and it’s an entirely different thing to be associated with mob bosses to the extent that it raises problems with the FBI. Plenty of boxers had a rough background, petty crime is a common theme of many boxers’ early life, sure. My all time favourite, Joe Frazier used to steal cars as a teen to sell their parts for cash, had plenty of street fights, and became a father at 17 with dropping out of school. Not your typical honour roll student, was he?

    Still, getting in trouble with the FBI because of your association with a mob boss (and having a father who was jailed for grievous bodily harm, and have relatives who want to beat people up over FB comments etc.) is quite something even for a boxer.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not defending ****, *******. I've started whole conversations about how bad it is a global criminal is in charge of the heavyweight champion.

    But your sanctimonious garbage about how boxers shouldn't hang out with criminals is childish. Most boxers were criminals or hang out with criminals or have worked with criminals. People with nice upbringings don't tend to pound other human beings in the head for a living.

    It's a tough sport for tough people. Always has been. Most of those criminals haven't been wanted GLOBALLY like Kinahan is, however.

    I was simply commenting on why Fury was, in fact, effectively banned. He isn't going to talk against Kinahan.

    **** off.
     
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    Ah yes, Evander, whose brother-in-law murdered Evander's brother with a shotgun blast to the chest. And his confidante Victor Conte, who went to prison for dealing steroids and money laundering. And how many of Evander's kids have been arrested so far? A freaking nest of choir boys there.

    **** off.
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    You are brain surgeon material, mate, no doubt :DDDD It makes perfect sense that you are a Fury vassal.

    As for your drivel: you can’t come up with anything intelligent apart from some Texas sharpshooter and whataboutery. Fury is criminal scum, and even in boxing, not many can claim that they are associated with mob bosses so much so that the FBI have you as a person of interest.
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    Actually everyone who boxed for or worked at MTK Global CAN CLAIM they are associated with Mob bosses who the FBI is targeting and they're on the BAN list, not to mention Joseph Parker (separate case), who hasn't been fighting in the States since he was accused of laundering drug money himself.

    You really don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    And who is the best pal of Parker, so much so that he lived in his pal’s house when he moved to the UK? You really are unable to add one and one together, lol. No wonder Ducky boy is now your yes man - birds of a feather and all that jazz.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    WTF are you talking about? Did you miss all my railing against Fury-Kinahan and Parker-Drug Launderer posts in other threads? Apparently so. You probably never even heard about Parker until I just told you.

    Dumbass, you immediately began insulting me and I'm someone who brought this up before.

    And you're too stupid STILL to notice, even after I told you I wasn't defending him. You've been arguing with someone (me) who agrees. All I did was point out (NICELY AT FIRST) that most boxers have criminal relationships.

    Moron.

    Jesus, some people just come out attacking before they even read what you wrote.

    Forget I ever agreed. (You're great at this. :hang)
     
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  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    I agree with Fury. I would have done the same.

    **** them.
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    It might come as a surprise to you but no, I don't follow members around to see what they post and where. I go to threads that interest me and if I see you there, I see you there. Shocking, I know. Your newfound BFF is in the habit of stalking others (and breaching their privacy as well), so ask him :)

    As for your other gibberish: dumbass, stupid, moron, blah blah :D Nothing of value. Yeah, I know you are a monolingual American, it's written all over your debating culture. I love how your type thinks that the greatest badassery in the world is using the most simplistic and overused schoolyard insults of your native language. Yeah, I'll tell those non-Americans they are morons, that'll teach them, ha! Them dumbasses! :DDDD

    You really are a cartoonish character, mate. Now be gone, I've wasted enough of my time on you already. Go and play with your pet pigeon <3