1974 Roberto Hands Of Stone Duran vs Devin Haney at 135 lbs, 15 rounds.

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If the number of defenses, the length of a fighter's reign and scoring knockouts are more important to you than who they fought, in the next Wilder thread, do make an appearance and support me, why don't you?;)

    Also, I don't admire Haney at all. I've been one of his harshest critics for years. I think he's boring. He's a weight bully. He holds too much. He can't punch.

    I'm just pointing out the obvious between them.

    And I followed Duran's lightweight defenses live. I've been following boxing since the mid 70s. My era has been every era for the last 48 years I've been watching boxing.

    But the truth is Haney's a big lightweight who enters the ring as a welter. Duran's power didn't translate against welters all that great. Compared to who Duran defended against, Haney's lightweight challengers - Loma, Kambosos twice, Joseph Diaz, Yuriorkis Gamboa and Jorge Linares more than stack up. Loma might be better than anyone Duran defended against at lightweight.

    And, if people are going to nitpick, Duran didn't bowl everyone over at lightweight. He lost. He got dropped several times. (DeJesus wasn't exactly a murderous puncher, either.) He had bad nights. He didn't always impress. He went deep in fights with really ordinary to pretty bad guys. He won his title on a foul and didn't give Buchanan a return.

    Haney isn't an easy out for anyone at Lightweight. Duran included. That's all I'm saying.
     
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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran dropped several times as a lightweight? He only got dropped twice against Esteban De Jesus, the first time in round 1 of the Nov 17 1972 non title fight that Duran lost on points. The next time at lightweight was his title defense against Esteban De Jesus on March 16 1974 in Panama City, Panama. Duran got dropped in round 1, got up and proceeded to stop De Jesus in round 11. I think you got Duran confused with somebody else, as lightweight champion from June 1972 until he gave up the title in Feb 1979, Duran only got decked twice, both times by De Jesus. I saw the second and third fights against De Jesus, the title bout in 1974 was on ABC's Wife World Of Sports, the third and last one was on the CBS Sports Spectacular, it was a title unification bout, Duran did not go down in that fight, as a matter a fact it was De Jesus who went down. What are you trying to do? Mess with my head, sorry Charlie. I also have my college degree in Psychology. At 64 my memory is still pretty sharp.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't several TWO? If not, okay, TWO. The rest stands.
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's okay, you dig Haney, I will dig Duran. No Sweat. By the way, a couple means two, several is more than two.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't "dig" Haney, trust me. :) But thanks for the clarification on several. ;)
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cool Buddy, no problem.
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mr. Haney ! Sorry Mr. Douglas. Ha Ha.
     
  8. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dang, you trying to Haney killed? Cos thats probably what would happen if Duran ever got his hands on him.
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dubblechin doesn't think so, he made it sound like Haney would give Duran a life and death match.
     
  10. BoB Box

    BoB Box Rollin with the punches Full Member

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    I usually like to put my money on the underdog to make things more interesting but the underdog has to have at least a slight chance of winning. In this case I would be throwing my money away, literally. I think I would sit this one out.
     
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  12. Mod-Mania

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    Duran by TKO about the 9th.
     
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  13. slash

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    He couldn't keep Lomachenko off him and Loma throws bodyshots only as an afterthought (otherwise he would have won), hardly at all, like an amateur style, still. Duran would maul Haney and return bodyshots, like pro's do, maybe twofold.
     
  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Especially when in close Roberto Duran used to deliver a hard right to the heart, he used this particularly in the title defense against Lightning Ray Lampkin in March 1975, he then kayoed Lampkin with a brutal right hand in the 14th round, Lampkin sustained a nasty Concussion as his head bounced off of the canvas after he fell and had to be hospitalized.
     
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  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic For the honorable cross and the golden freedom Full Member

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    I give Devin Haney a slight chance. Rarely has anyone been as superior as Duran in the Lightweight division. Sugar Ray Robinson at Welterweight, 1967 Muhammad Ali at Heavyweight...