Haney vs Lomachenko judged by Artificial Intelligence

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  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    That's cool and all, but fights are scored by rounds not total punches. It is possible for the guy that landed more shots to lose the fight. For example, if I land 30 punches per round for the first 5 rounds and you land 0. Then you tighten up your D and become more aggressive in rounds 6-12 and land 15 punches per round and I land 0, you win the fight. 7-5. Punch totals, me 150 landed, you 105. I know it not that cut and dry. Judges need to consider the damage the punches cause, a jab vs an uppercut etc.
     
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  2. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't like the idea of AI scoring fights for a variety of reasons, but I very much like it as a basis of review for judges' cards. One consensus from last weekend is that Moretti needs to be retired.

    As for the fight, the correct answer is that it was very close and could have gone either way. Any opinion stronger than that is some combination of biased and uninformed, and all the crying in the world won't change anything.
     
    Lesion of Doom, May 26, 2023
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  3. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It has round by round breakdown. Should have looked at that before sperg posting.
     
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    No doubt.
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    They're being generous to Haney there too me thinks
     
    Serge, May 26, 2023
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    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes it was. At very least it was one of them
     
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  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Boxing is scored round by round, and if I am a correct, this AI scored overall punches landed(and other factors).
     
    Badbot, May 27, 2023
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  8. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Put your cursor on the image, you will see an arrow to the right. Click on it, there are several panes in this instagram post.

    RBR breakdown also favours Lomachenko. We can safely say Haney did not take 7 or more rounds by any measure.
     
    CleneloAnavarez, May 27, 2023
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  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    The AI says it is 8-1 with 3 rounds that are too close. You've proven YDKSAB and now reading.
     
    Grinder, May 27, 2023
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    What would you say the robbery of the century is then??? This…

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    Loma 116–112
     
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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    "Showed good stamina early" proper Fury zinger right there. Love him.
     
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  12. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Why isn't there more discussion on this? It is the absolute proof required to say Loma won 8-1 with 3 close rounds. That is not a close fight, which the conformist media and Haney nuthuggers were using as the means of giving Haney the win, that is, it was close so I am ok with any result.

    This is typical of boxing today.
     
    Grinder, May 29, 2023
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    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Slide 3
     
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  14. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not about "retiring" Moretti. He's a cheat who has been fixing fights for decades.

    Hindsight now shows that once he was appointed Loma needed a KO to win the fight.

    Moretti should be in jail.
     
    The Cryptkeeper, May 29, 2023
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    How does AI differentiate between for example a fighter flicking their jabs as opposed to throwing standard jabs?
     
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