Corbett vs Foreman. 1893, 45 rounds

Jeffries, with his ridiculous, wide open crouch, would be lit up long before the first clinch.

 

You're predicting that Foreman knocks Jeffries out with the first punch of the fight?

 

I would put everything I own on him getting Jeffries out of these within two. And he would hurt him in the first 30 seconds.

 

I wouldn't bet everything I own on predicting the outcome -- to the half-minute -- of a fight between champions of what are essentially two different combat sports.

That said, your scenario is nostalgic. It reminds me of people from the 90s predicting that nobody could grapple Striking Style X, because they'd get knocked out before closing.

 

Jack Johnson threw Jeffries around like a red headed step child. Sure, Jim's reflexes and boxing skills (such as they ever were) were diminished, but not his supposed strength. He sucked. I haven't seen any filmed evidence of him being even a rudimentarily sound or effective grappler. Jeffries, at his very ceiling, fits in with the 5 guys Foreman swept in Toronto.

 

So, it's an interesting angle you've taken. Didn't expect you to go for the position that Jeffries was bad even by his own era's standards and rules.

I'd have to think through the implications of the best heavies from the early 1900s sucking so badly that Foreman's cannon fodder from the 70s would pull even with them under their own rules. There are a lot of them to work out.

I assume this isn't another example of your trying to craft the rhetorically perfect soundbite? It's sometimes hard to tell.

 

I call them like I see them.

 

Corbett did have immense success in his first fight with Jeffries, but I think Foreman corners him and knocks him out.

 

How would his strength not deteriorate after losing a significant amount of weight, in a short period of time, at an older age? No chance was the Jeffries of 1910 as anywhere near strong as the Jeffries of 1900

 

He was at his peak in 1904, not 1900. He lost some weight, not the 100+ pounds often stated, over a long, considered period of time. He was not even three years older than Johnson.

I am in my 50's and deadlift more now than when I was in my 20's. Strength doesn't go away for a long time. (and yeah, I'm on the doorstep)

 

The Jeffries of 1910 is incomparable to that of 1900 or 1904. You can't lose a lot of weight in such a short period of time in your mid 30s and expect it to not impact your body. Jeffries began his weight loss 18 months prior to the fight, and the dude looked pretty fat in 1908. Whether or not it was 100 pounds is a different story, the sources I see say he weighed 330 pounds prior to camp.

 

So I think Golovkin would beat Corbett. Foreman would turn Corbett into a thin paste.

 

Before round 1 Dick Sadler warns Foreman to carry Corbett for a few rounds or they’d be lynched. Foreman comes out at the bell and Corbett suddenly feels his presence and wants out of there. He starts circling the ring in desperation while Foreman walks/stalks him mitts corner. He then stands there looking at a petrified Corbett. George gives Sadler a quick glance who out of desperation screams dance George dance. Now George is dancing and Corbett running. The crowd starts to boo but then burst out laughing at this sight. George decides to tap Corbett on the nose with a light jab. James J has never ever experienced this power before and his body and mind go into shock. George looks helplessly at Dick who screams at George to dance. George then starts dancing again. The crowd now starts pelting the ring with coins hats you name it. George gets mad. Dick covers his eyes knowing what’s about to happen. George walks over to James J who’s rooted to his spot still in shock and thinks oh **** it and hits Corbett with a body shot that sends Corbett bouncing off the ropes. The ref gives Corbett a slow count. 1……..2……..3………….4, anyway after 30 odd seconds he quietly reaches 10. George looks I’ve to his corner to see Sadler running for his life with 30 odd spectators after him. George leans over the ropes and glares at the crowd. Corbett is put onto a stretcher with his corner crying and George pushes and shoved his way back to his dressing room to confront Sadler for this whole farce.

 

I see no comparison between Corbett’s successes in his first fight with Jeffries and his potential successes vs Foreman. Jeffries played a waiting game whilst sponging punishment.

Foreman will simply jump on Jim from first bell.

Foreman could opt to fight with relative patience behind the jab to open Jim up or simply cut the ring off from the get go, gun for and whomp Corbett to the body - as he did Jose King Roman - quickly making a badly hurt Corbett easy prey for fight finishing head shots.