Most controversial results: Canelo vs GGG 1, Ward vs Kovalev 1, or Haney vs Lomachenko

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Most controversial results

  1. Canelo vs GGG 1

    117 vote(s)
    68.4%
  2. Ward vs Kovalev 1

    35 vote(s)
    20.5%
  3. Haney vs Lomachenko

    19 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yeah I had the 2nd a clear GGG win, for some reason people just ignored the jab that GGG was landing all night.
     
  2. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People were overly impressed with Canelo's toughness and pressing. It was impressive, but GGG was very effective with his boxing, defense, jabs and power shots. It was a little different seeing GGG in this stance, but it just showed his versatility and ring pedigree. If you can't really hurt the guy and he keeps coming, you got to box him. If Tyson could do that he might have beat Holyfield.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one's saying GGG wasn't effective in the rematch. The rounds were very close, Canelo ate a lot of jabs no question about it, but he kept coming forward and inflicted a ton of punishment on GGG. The relentless aggression won Canelo that fight, how he fought GGG became a big storyline. That didn't just happen out of the blue. GGG made it the storyline. He has to take responsibility for the whole Mexican Style theme. He made that a thing by what he said after the first fight. You can't ask for it, get it, then complain about getting it.

    All things being equal, the jab can win you the fight. All things weren't equal though. Canelo was better in practically every area besides the jab in the rematch. And if were honest, that was all GGG could do. Just step away, step away, jab, jab, take no risks, safety first, etc. Canelo was the one putting it all on the line. That's what (according to a ton of boxing fans at that time) you're supposed to do as the challenger to take a champion's titles. Of course now that whole idea is mocked, but it wasn't mocked back then. That was supposedly what Canelo had to do, and not only did do that, but he did it well.

    How GGG fought in the rematch, while effective, was not what GGG claimed to be about after the first fight. Of course GGG had his moments with non-jabs in the rematch, but they were few and far between, i.e. he landed a decent shot or two in the 10th round, to which GGG fans claim was this amazing moment where he hurt Canelo. Bottom line, GGG just didn't back up his trash talk about Mexican Style. was too gunshy to stay in the trenches with Canelo. He did make some nice adjustments though, just not enough to win against a super determined Canelo doing what the public asked for. GGG got the Mexican Style he asked for, and it resulted in him taking a lot of punishment. When we hear about how people were ignoring GGG's jab in the rematch, you could say the same thing about Canelo's body shots or Canelo's effective aggression. Canelo won that by showing the fans and the judges that he can fight coming forward, that he can lay it all on the line and win coming forward. GGG did not show as much versatility as Canelo. Canelo fought two completely different styles in fight 1 and 2 and it was a joy to watch.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "isn't even debatable"? :lol:

    You just said you woulda been ok with the draw in the first fight had GGG won the rematch. If you would have been ok with a draw then it's certainly debatable. It's one thing to come the the conclusion that GGG won, by splitting hairs in some close rounds, but to claim that it isn't even debatable, you know better, you know how close and debatable that was.
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The pathetic draw that you woulda been ok with had GGG won the rematch. Which says all you need to know about what drives you and where you stand. It's all about confirmation bias with you. You needed GGG to win one of those, that was all this is about for you. It isn't about scoring it accurately or fairly, it's just about finding as many rounds as you can in order to score it for GGG which was what you set out to do from the beginning.

    GGG had no "right" to the lineal middleweight title. He never won it because he wasn't good enough against Canelo.
     
  6. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another reminder that Canelita threw his WBC 160 belt away in 2016 to avoid Golovkin.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To avoid Golovkin? If he did that to avoid Golovkin, then why did he fight him the very next year? Makes no sense. He made it very clear that he intended to fight GGG, and he followed through with that promise.

    And a reminder, GGG just threw his WBA and IBF belts away to avoid Falcao and Lara.
     
  8. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG didn't complain about anything, he made adjustments and out boxed Canelo.
     
  9. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not debatable. One robbery is less harmful than two. Comprende? READ MY LIPS.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG fans asked for it, boxing fans asked for it. The boxing public urged Canelo to fight "Mexican Style" in the rematch, which was because of what GGG said after the first fight. Which was complaining. GGG was complaining about how Canelo fought in the first fight, and urged him to give the fans a "Big Drama Show" in the rematch and fight in a more fan friendly style. Canelo was happy to oblige with some Mexican Style in the rematch. They say be careful what you wish for, or you just might get it. Well GGG got his Mexican Style alright, and it didn't work out too well for the G man now did it. :lol: It was said by the fans that was how Canelo had to fight in order to win, and because he didn't fight that way the first time, he didn't deserve to win. According to GGG fans, in a reaction to what GGG said about Mexican Style, Canelo didn't deserve to take the Champion's titles the first time because he didn't take it to the Champ. :naughty2::sisi1

    Well Canelo did what the boxing public said he had to do, but didn't in the first fight. He did that in the rematch, he fought the way that GGG fans and the boxing public said he needed to. Then after he did that, and he won (which was what they said he had to do to win) GGG fans like you complained about the decision. You can't ask for it, get it, then complain about getting it. And that's precisely what you and other GGG fans are doing. Complaining about GGG losing a decision with Canelo fighting a relentless version of Mexican Style which was what he needed to do (according to GGG fans and the larger boxing public) to win.
     
  11. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG needed to win both, and he did just that, and had he stepped on the gas a little earlier he would have one the third one as well. What he didn't get was two KO'S which is the only way he could have defeated the boxing politics.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2023
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Might wanna check the record books bud. GGG has zero wins over Canelo. Sawwie.
    Had he stepped on the gas earlier. His fault for not doing that. Instead of making excuses for him, you should voice your disappointment at how GGG fought. How GGG fought in the 3rd fight was pathetic!!
     
  13. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first fight was lopsided but competitive. The Canelo corrupt judging machines were working on all cylinders and could only muster a draw, that should tell you something.
     
  14. m.s.

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    But stiill almost won. Canelo was once again red faced and desperate by time the bell rang. Again Two wins and a close loss for GGG.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
    Was Dave Moretti who scored it for GGG 115-113 part of Canelo's corrupt judging machines? The tinfoil hat you wear is cutting off the blood supply to your brain.