Julio Cesar Chavez's first loss in 1981 against Miguel Ruiz

August 1986, Monte Carlo, Monaco. televised live on NBC. Chavez vs Lockridge. Chavez retained.

 

I don't think that the New York Supreme Court can legally set precedent for a decision rendered in Sinaloa.

I also wonder if Dick Mastro's records listed Tomas Molinares as having defeated Marlon Starling. The referee declared Molinares the winner, and it wasn't until two weeks later that the New Jersey athletic commission changed the result of the fight to a no-contest. The WBA ignored that decision and confirmed Molinares' status as champion.

Eusebio Pedroza vs. Juan LaPorte was another fight where the official decision (Pedroza UD) was overturned (LaPorte DQ) by the New Jersey commission. BoxRec went along with their decision in Starling-Molinares, but they still list Pedroza as the winner of this fight.

 

Good post. I remember this being brought up about JCC record having a loss but it never made big news, in the 90's anyway. I tried looking for the fight against Ruiz but no luck. If anyone has the footage of this so called DQ I would like to see it. Maybe the overturn was fair or maybe it was corrupt. Hard to have an opinion on this topic without the footage.
The way the ruling by the referee was overturned by itself seems shady though.

 

Yeah, if a government agency — which is what a commission is — is given by a city, state or nation the duty to oversee a sport, it ultimately can do what it wants and what it decides is official.

I’m sure in some cases (and perhaps this one) there’s been some crooked stuff happens, but if the official ruling body that has been granted legal jurisdiction over an enterprise (boxing or anything else) then whatever it decides is ultimately how it should be recorded.

No precedent by a judge in New York has legal standing in deciding the outcome of a boxing match in Mexico, lol.

 

As a footnote, poor Ruiz took off five months after the Chavez fight, which was at bantamweight, and had the final fight of his career — a fourth-round TKO loss to an 8-0 Azumah Nelson in California (with Nelson weighing 131 … no record of Ruiz’s weight).

That’s assuming it’s the same Miguel Ruiz, but boxrec records it as being him. He also lost to Nicky Perez and Frankie Baltazar by stoppage per the same source, but I’d say there’s reason for skepticism that it’s the same guy as his weights bounce as high as 137 and as low as 112 … kinda hard to bounce up and down like that when you’re at the lower end of the weight-class spectrum. I wonder if there might not have been two Miguel Diazes fighting out of Mexico around the same time.

 

I don't think that, at the time of the Ruiz fight, anybody saw Chavez as a future super star; with only 15 amateur fights he was very much a work in progress.
JMM had a dq loss early in his career and it didn't do anything to slow his rise.
That long ago a loss wasn't a career killing stigma, especially a dq loss when nobody involved had any reason to believe that Chavez was going to win another 40 fights after the Lockridge fight.

 

First I’ve heard of it.. interesting