'Professor' Mike Donovan sparring Billy Edwards, 1905

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Cool thing I found online:

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  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Billy Edwards won the American Lightweight Championship in 1868, here is more footage of him:

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    Doesn't look too shabby for a 51 year old, his jab is crisp and his movement is superb. It's a shame we don't have more footage of these lads
     
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    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    I don’t know anything about these guys- could you tell me?
     
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    And Professor Mike was actually about 3 years younger than Billy? I wouldn’t have guessed that.
     
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  5. Melankomas

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    The most surprising thing about this footage is that Donovan is just 58!
     
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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Based on pics of Donovan as an older man, it's pretty clear which one is him IMO lmao. The one that looks half dead
     
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    Seeing how agile he was in the 1895 footage despite being 51 years old, I'd say that genetics have certainly done him favours.
     
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    You know what they say today: 58 is the new 38
     
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    If we go by looks then 58 is the new 98
     
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  11. Melankomas

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    I like Donovan's jab and movement in this, in spite of his age he still moves around very well. I can see why he is described as one of the first tacticians in boxing. Imagine how good these two must've looked at their peak
     
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    John L Sullivan had he aged better might’ve at least had an exhibition for us to watch, it makes me just a touch sad but I’m grateful for the mythos he left behind by not being seen by any eyes today. He is my favourite boxer sometimes because he’s more a folk hero than a man.
     
  13. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Sullivan had countless exhibitions until like 1905, I'm sure at least one was filmed
     
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    Footage like this gives me faith in the technique of pre-1900s boxers. Both of these men make very good showings for themselves in the two videos, and they look more modernistic and refined than Fitz, Corbett, Jeffries or Johnson do. It's weird, since Donovan and Edwards were from the 1860s and 70s.

    Btw, I was able to verify that it is indeed Donovan and Edwards in the footage. Donovan looks identical to how he did in real life as an old man, and a friend of mine who's an expert on the era told me it's Edwards.
     
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    IIRC, I believe Sullivan rejected the payment on offer and/or priced himself out. I think he was offered a decent amount but perhaps John L was overly "plump" as at that time - so 1) not in viable condition and not so aesthetically pleasing to appear on film. I also recall reading that Courtney doctored his record to make it look more impressive and therefore eligible to share the ring with Corbett. As to Billy Edwards, the guy on film does resemble still photos of the actual man.
     
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