A lesser fighter you feel could beat a greater fight due to wrong style?

Brian Mitchell beating Alexis Arguello

 

I like Wilder over Holmes. Decision.

I think that size and conditioning make things not comfortable whatsoever for Larry. He prefers the catchers and guys susceptible to a jab. That reach and especially the right hand of Wilder changes all that. He keeps that speed and power throughout the fight. maybe a few knockdowns along the way and he gets the decision over a better fighter. But that big right hand is going to come over that Holmes jab.

What would be interesting also is the promoter influence here---Heyman against Don King pretty much guarantees a controversy one way or another.

 

Wilder beating Holmes by decision ? You must be having a laugh. You must of missed Wilder getting outboxed for large periods against mediocre opposition. And what skills does Wilder have to beat an ATG highly Heavyweight like Holmes by decision ?

As for conditioning ? Holmes went 15 rounds in tough fights, Wilder was huffing and puffing after a few rounds vs Fury in their 3rd fight.

Yes Wilder does have the right hand and I could possibly see him dropping Holmes, but I'm sorry theres no way someone like Wilder could ever out point Holmes who is levels above him.

Wilders only chance is by KO but he'd never in a million years outpoint Holmes.

 

You realize Wilder WILLINGLY drops rounds in order to patiently wait for an opportunity to unload that right hand. He has a puncher’s chance to KO Holmes but less than zero of outpointing him as Dynamic stated.

 

Wilder doesn't even have much of a punchers chance against Holmes. Remember Holmes ate a right hand from Shavers at point blank range, got KO'ed, then got back up to win the fight. Chances are even a right hand from Wilder isn't putting Holmes down long enough for the ref to count it as a KO. He'd do just like Fury did and rise from the dead, then go on to win the fight.

I think there is zero chance of Wilder beating Holmes whether he lands a right hand or not.

 

The term "lesser fighter" often depends on who is doing the evaluating. An example of a style creating a possible upset win over, say, Larry Holmes (who many rank as high as #3 behind Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis all-time) would be (obviously) Mike Tyson, or Joe Frazier, or, even Rocky Marciano or Floyd Patterson would have some chances, in my opinion.

 

I consider Mitchell a very solid pro, very solid all around game. What do you see that makes you think that he would beat Arguello?

 

I could see it based on Alexis losing to Vilomar Fernandez, a lesser fighter than Mitchell who also utilized good footwork and boxing skills. Bubba Busceme also gave AA some trouble til the bomb dropped, iirc, and even Billy Costello was giving him fits til Billy completely ran out of gas (inexplicably) in the fourth round.

A disciplined fighter like Mitchell might have outfoxed Arguello at least once … maybe not to win a three-fight series but he could take the first one imo.

 

I could see someone like Gerry Cooney beating guys like Floyd Patterson, Ingemar Johansson, prime Norton, and maybe even Ezzard Charles just in shear size and power

 

Emmanuel Augustus beats many a 'better' fighter on the right night.

 

Wasn’t thinking of Cooney in particular, but came to post that I could see a lot of lesser fighters beating Patterson due to his chin.

In fact, Ingo was an inferior fighter to Floyd but did beat him (granted, one out of three, but he beat him).

Heck, an amateur (Rademacher) put Patterson on the canvas. Imagine what Teofilo Stevenson would do.

 

This is one of the hottest takes ever. I love it.

 

Amir Kahn vs Floyd Mayweather. I think that is why Floyd Mayweather didnt want to fight him.

Demetrius Andrade vs Canelo

Joe Joyce vs Tyson Fury