Crawford's next two fights - ATG potential?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't have a dog in this race but I think it's something that needs to be considered.

    Crawford has already been unified champ in two divisions.

    His next fight is Spence and the fight after that he's calling out Charlo.

    If he wins those two, and is unified in 4 divisions, do we have to consider him an ATG?
     
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    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he dominates & knocks out Spence, he's an ATG without needing to do anything else.
     
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    That's silly.
     
  5. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    If he does that he's an ATG no doubt about it.
     
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    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He KO's both Spence and Charlo and he is the best boxer of this century.
     
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    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Gamboa, Brook, Kava, Porter, Khan, Benavidez, Horn, Postol, Burns, Dulorme, Spence Jr, Charlo, Mainly by stoppage?

    - Multi-weight champ, 0 losses. Can't really argue against that.
     
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    He would cement himself as PfP No. 1 and legitimize his entire run. This is all purely subjective, of course, but I disagree with you. Again, *if* he dominates and knocks out Spence.
     
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    Charlo will duck him though. He's afraid of Timmy from Sydney there's no way he's fighting Crawford specially if Bud dominates and stops Spence.
     
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    The corollary to Crawford's situation is Bernard Hopkins. Remember, Hopkins was the underdog against Trinidad. Prior to that fight, he was considered a good not great champion who presided over a weak era at 160. And he had lost a clear UD to the only great opponent he'd faced.

    But when he dominated and KTFO Trinidad, it completely changed the perception of his championship run and he was minted at ATG at the division. He obviously further enhanced his resume when he went up in weight, but even confined to 160 he's in the conversational mix with the other great MWs. That's what Trinidad did for him.

    Similar thing here. Crawford probably has a better resume at 147 than Hopkins did at 160 prior to Trinidad, but regardless he's not an ATG based on his current accomplishments. Plus, he has been inactive. But Spence provides him with an opportunity to cement himself among the greats at 147.
     
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    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like the 'mongrel' in Crawford. It's something that's missing in a lot of fighters even great ones. You can also refer to it as the four letter word that starts with C.
     
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    Take a step back. Or several.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes. if he can do that to spence he is undoubtedly the most skilled fighter in boxing today. and with his previous accomplishments, its an atg body of work. i dont think hes that man, but if he is, im big enough to give him his due.
     
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    Crawford's entire legacy (and Spence's to a large extent) hinges on this fight. If he loses, he'll be remembered as a very good but inactive champ who lost against his only elite opponent. If he wins a close fight, his legacy will be ambiguous unless he builds from there. If he wins & dominates, he's an ATG.

    I'm not a huge Crawford fan because his resume is thin for an A-side guy his age. This fight should have happened several years ago, and the winner could have progressed to 160 and probably made some noise there against a weak field. As it is, at least this fight is happening and we get a legacy question answered at 147.
     
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    for over 5 years i have been saying nobody beats spence at 147. for over 5 years nobody has come close. i know how good spence really is, so i know what an accomplishment it would be for him to do what you suggest. wtf does it matter what these know nothings who have been saying this guy beats spence, and that guy beats spence, think about it. they dk ****.
     
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