Usyk and Lomachenko are overrated.

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  1. Fracture10

    Fracture10 New Member banned Full Member

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    I keep hearing people say that Usyk and Lomachenko got the best defense in boxing and how they are these defensive wizards that can’t be touched yet they end up looking like this after every fight. They stand no chance against the greats. The greats would have destroyed them.
     
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  2. fruitandnutcase

    fruitandnutcase Member Full Member

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    Frazier spent several weeks in hospital after Ali1. What's your point?
     
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  3. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be fair, loma got caught with a lot of elbows and as for usyk, he's facing giants in there that hit harder than heart break ridge
     
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  4. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yes loma is overrated but in usyks case its BS. In Cw and Hw they are all bruised up after fights, a single jab can easily cause a cut or big swelling. Look at WK vs Wach, the pole barely landed anything, yet wlad looked very bad even with his defence first style.
     
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  5. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What fight is that for Lomachenko? Pedraza?
     
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  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two incredibly talented, multi division champions overrated? Give over.
     
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  7. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly the Haney fight there was lots of elbows by way of catching it by camera in photos of the fight.
     
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  8. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Some fighters just mark up and bruise easier than others. But win every fight.

    Some fighters hit the deck and lose with no bruising.

    Some fighters get hit and quit with no bruising.

    Some fighters lose a UD with no bruising.


    Bruised or not, the best man wins.
     
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  9. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Don't feed the obvious troll
     
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  10. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Some of you guys have no clue about boxing and it shows. Please delete your acc and never return. You will be doing all of us a great favor.
     
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  11. SergioJ91

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    Loma is overrated, Usyk is not.
     
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  12. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you seriously just compare to the great Muhammad Ali to the likes of Devin Haney and Anthony Joshua?
     
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  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    It baffles me that there are grown men like the OP and the usual suspects on ESB that actually watch boxing but don't like the fighters who are everything great about the sport. They prefer the A side diva's who stack the deck in their favor who get away with robberies and dirty tactics.
     
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  14. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont think anybody claims Usyk is a Mayweather-esque defensive master. His talent is he'll land 10 for every 1 he takes.
     
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  15. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The whole draw of both of them is they blend a boxing skill and speed with pressure. We're so used to thinking of fast, skillful fighters as being defensively oriented but neither of them are.

    And some of them wear a lot of concealer and sunglasses every time they get interviewed.

    You know the old saying, "maybe he's nice like that, maybe it's Maybelline"
     
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