Usyk and Lomachenko are overrated.

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  1. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    He couldn't urinate for 3 days!
     
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  2. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    Nonsense. What are you basing this on, the garbage that gets posted on Twitter. Mostly armchair casual fans who don't have a clue.
     
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  3. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a Rascal.
     
  4. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both overrated . I agree .
     
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  5. BM237

    BM237 Member banned Full Member

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    how is loma overrated . He’s fighting much bigger opponents and I can’t think of legit loss on his record.
     
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  6. Philly161

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    This way of judging defensive prowess is biased against melanin-deficient Europeans
     
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    So Teo whooping him isn't a legit loss? lmfao
     
  8. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Defensive wizards? I honestly never read anything about either man being untouchable. Both great fighters. They desreve better than having fools like the OP talking them down.
     
  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They are only overrated if you think Usyk could be an all time great heavyweight or that Loma is an all time great at 126
     
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  10. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Exactly. People tend to confuse they are great amateurs, but not great professionals and will never be such.
     
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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    is this about who can fight, or who makes you feel all fuzzy inside?
     
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  12. BM237

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    Teo whooped him? Lol
     
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  13. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not much on stats, but OP should look up the compubox totals on punches landed against Usyk & Loma, if he cares so much about it. This would be much better "proof" than the toughness of their skin, which proves nothing.

    If someone actually watches them fight and comes to the conclusion that their defense sucks, they DKSAB.
     
  14. PFPIsAMyth

    PFPIsAMyth New Member Full Member

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    He's both the greatest and best. And what decisions, Norton 3? Lol.
     
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  15. Valde

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    Lomachenko is actually underrated. If he was black american boxer from Mayweather gym everybody would praise him as second coming and he would have won all controversial fights. Lomachenko has so good defence that people are simply counting punches that he actually evades or blocks. His combinations are so quick and extensive that we cannot see them fully without running the match in slow motion.

    In future Lomachenko´s reputation will be redeemed when we get all boxing matches reviewed by AI. Jabbr.ai has beta version of AI and their punch counts were following:

    Lomachenko - Haney 160 - 110
    Lomachenko - Lopez 184 - 106

    Salido was 3.8 kg overweight so his win is not legit for this reason (besides low blows).

    I could live with it if Lomachenko Lopez would be a draw but Haney match was clear robbery supported both by bare eye and AI.

    I like most Lomachenko - Lopez fight. Lopez was a monster and a guy with loma´s frame shouldnt have had any chances in that bout. But if you are watching this fight in slow motion you see that Loma was dodging almost all power punches from Lopez. He had to be careful because Lopez at thta time would have absolutely killed anyone with 126lbs frame.

    Boxing world is full of lies and there is lot of paid bots advertising certain "establishment" fighters. I believe there is coordinated campaign against Lomachenko which is led from the top. These forces are not only paying to influencers but they also rigged Loma´s fight against Lopez and Haney. After Hnaye match these people came up with story that Loma won only 3 rounds. That´s pure mind control and propaganda. Mayweather has been always been awkwad when he has talked Loma. That is not miracle because compared to his size Loma is fighting bigger, heavier and more dangerous fighters than Mayweather.
     
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