Foreman never hit Ali with his best shot, right?

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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I think George hit Ali to the body with his best shot on a couple of occasions. I really don't think he did to the head.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    Do you, do you, do you mean you're not normally with me?????????????????????????? :lol:

    But yes....absolutely. He was simply outmaneuvered, out grappled etc etc etc. Ali nullified Foreman's enormous strength.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    You watched a different fight to most of us then.
     
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  4. William Walker

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    Nope. I just perceive it a tad differently.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

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    I'm generally with whichever side has an interesting, but under-appreciated point.

    Unless it's completely untenable. Like Foreman not trying in RITJ.
     
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  6. ThatOne

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    Whatever strategy he employed it didn't work.
     
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  7. ThatOne

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    Rock. Paper. Scissors. Boxer beats slugger.
     
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  8. PFPIsAMyth

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    I wish I was alive in '74. Would have made so much money betting on Ali.
     
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  9. ThatOne

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    4 -1 dog. Ali done ----ed up a lot of minds.
     
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    "They said I had nothing left to offer than my mouth."
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Foreman came out as hard as ever. Ali had him enraged with all his pre-fight antics. Unlike others Ali was able to thwart it via various means including scorching right hand counter attacks to force him to halt, educated movement, excellent grappling and tying up etc. Foreman kept coming, cutting off the ring and looking to get his shots off. Ali had far better durability and defensive instincts than the likes of Frazier and Norton and a close look shows him to be on an elevated state of alert vs his norm. Completely different fights. The first round vs Ali was actually more aggressive and fought harder than against Norton.
     
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  12. ThatOne

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    On the Rumble, "Whatever you think he's going to do he's not going to do and whatever you think he's not going to do he's going to do." -Joe Frazier
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    I'm certainly hearing you on the latter. Ali wasn't as strong as Foreman (but he was a damn site stronger than many realized) but he certainly offset that strength when they fought where as others couldn't.
     
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  14. William Walker

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    Completely agreed. And even though I think he didn't give his 100% to try and knock Ali out in no time, I don't think he could have done it regardless.
     
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  15. ThatOne

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    He knew how to use leverage a darn sight better.
     
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