Andre Ward vs Bivol, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk

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  1. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    If Ward hadn't retired and fought Eastern european guys.. your thoughts?
     
  2. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loses to Bivol and Beterbiev

    Wins close SD against the Nail in his hometown
     
  3. BCS8

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    I think all three beat him.

    Beterbiev just too strong and physical. He's basically a cruiser boiling down to LHW. Ward trying to maul this guy would backfire spectacularly.

    The other two are basically faster, more mobile and nimble versions of prime Kovalev. The declined version of Kovalev that in my view beat Ward in the first fight lost because he gassed out. These two don't have his power but they have other attributes that will give Ward fits. Ward has good timing but that's harder to pull off against a guy that's more fleet footed and faster than you.

    I think Beterbiev wins by KO, Bivol and Gvozdyk by decision.
     
  4. Fourth_Horseman

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    Ward loses to Beterbiev in a brutal KO, loses to Gvozdyk in a unanimous decision, and loses or wins depending on location against Bivol. In a neutral location with a strict referee, Ward would lose but in Vegas and some home cooking, he probably wins against Bivol.
     
  5. BM237

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    Bivol wins UD
    Beterbiev stops him
    Ward wins UD over Gvozd
     
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  6. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward was dirty, but still he would lose.

    Bivol UD, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk Late KO
     
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  7. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gvozdyk not sure, probably not but the other two beat him. These guys ain't Kessler, Abraham or Froch. Three of Ward's best wins and no one talks about them in a historical context, in fact they have been forgotten by most.
     
  8. Serge

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    He could've fought them all but he didn't want none of that smoke with any of them. Fact is he tucked tail and ran for the hills when the division was on fire because he knew damn well his judges and refs wouldn't be able to get away with robbing those guys like they did Kovalev. Well, to be fair, they very likely would've done so but he knew his reputation would've been in absolute tatters if they did.
     
  9. kk17

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    Beterbiev stops Ward. Im not sure what would happen in the 2 other fights
     
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  10. BCS8

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    People are severely underrating Gvozdyk here. Beterbiev ruined him, but he was an absolute beast in his prime.

    Look how well he combines offense and defence.

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    Dude was beating Beterbiev until the accumulative damage caught up with him.
     
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  11. turbotime

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    Froch is a legend mate.
     
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  12. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Might be true, but in his era and I think SMW was always rather weak. This weight class had good fighters but no great boxing talents.

    I think Canelo would have beaten all of them.
     
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  13. Fourth_Horseman

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    Gvozdyk gave Beterbiev a tough fight when Beterbiev was in his prime.
     
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  14. Dangerwood84

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    Trying to smother and grapple his way to a biased points victory aint working against those 3. Ward takes an 'L' against all of them. Beaten to a bloody pulp, resembling a pile of goo against King Artur, Gvozdyk stops him late and Bivol schools him. **** Ward anyway, he sucks.
     
  15. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    They literally chased Ward from the boxing game. Ward literally decided to call it a day.

    Gvozdyk and Beterbiev both KO Ward.

    Bivol-Ward is 50/50.