Andre Ward vs Bivol, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk

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  1. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I think he would resort to low blows, elbows and forearm strikes and still lose to Beterbiev by KO. Probably loses a UD against the Nail and Bivol.
     
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    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFL Ward might only entertain them if they fight in his hometown with hometown officials & every advantage going his way.He must be allowed to Headbutt like a Billy Goat, Throw low blows without fear of punishment .
    Plus all opponents must wear pillow - like gloves, like Floyd made Maidana wear . Even with all this I don't think Ward would still fight
     
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    Andre Ward loses to all three (Bivol, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk), but I would really like to see Andre Ward Vs. Artur Beterbiev :)
     
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    A lot of fighters fought in a clinch style. The great jack johnson, Henry Armstrong, joe gans for example.
     
  5. C.J.

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    Ward in my opinion was one of the dirtiest fighters I can recall. There was no foul he wouldn't use. He got away with it by mainly fighting in his hometown arena with hometown officials. He was the only one in the Super Six Tournament that had every fight at home. Even his hometown boxing fans didnt really support him the arenas were half empty. I wouldn't be surprised if he had neutered Sergey Kovalev after the bombardment he dished out to his testes, all ignored by ref Tony Weekes
     
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  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Weekes is a pretty bad ref though who rarely interacts. A light puncher from the Bay Area just isn’t going to draw a crowd either. The championship fights overseas are always going to be way more popular there as opposed to basketball, for instance.
     
  7. TavoPalacios956

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    Jones clowns them
     
  8. C.J.

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    Yeah but how was he allowed to get away with it he never fought one fight outside the US in the Super Six.
    You might call him a light puncher but his head isn't soft. He used it as he wished sort of like Evander Holyfield
    I would love to see him fight Artur if he started the dirty stuff with him he'd get HURT!!!!
     
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    RJJ 's chin wouldn't hold up to Beterbiev's Bombs
     
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    Beterbiev wouldn’t had touch him flush, Jones had those problems when he moved up to HW and down you can’t be playing with weight
     
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    Jones gets to him first, no doubt about it.
     
  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I have no idea how he got his fights in the US, one theory is they wanted to build him into a star here, but his style just didn’t appeal. Not to mention it’s always a big deal for fighters from other regions to come to the US’ larger market.

    it is what it is.
     
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    Recent results have only confirmed Ward and Bradley's gift robberies.

    With unbiased referees and judges, he would lose at least 2 of those fights, but his being allowed to head butt, hit below the belt, receive referee support and receive gift decisions makes this impossible to predict.
     
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    As somebody who gave him the first Kovalev fight, I think Bivol and Beterbiev both beat him pretty clearly. Beterbiev breaks him down for a 10th round stoppage and Bivol wins an 8-4 type decision. I think he may narrowly edge a fight against Gvozdyk though.