Why is Tysons competition poo pooed

And most fighters come from backgrounds that are different than you.

Many didn’t have parents who would tell them how to save money … because they needed every penny they could get just to feed their kids. And came up in slums and such where work wasn’t available.

You’re acting like they all had bright and sunny upbringings and decided after a round of golf at the country club to walk into a boxing gym while talking to their investment advisor on a cell phone.

Were you able to retire at the same age Marvin Hagler did and not really have to worry about money the rest of your life and live a comfortable lifestyle that allowed you to do whatever you wanted? Well, maybe he did it better than you then.

Boxers get a relatively short career to make all the money they can. Most of them don’t have any skill set or education to set them up for careers after boxing — to make it big you need to be super-focused on boxing for the most part so maybe they don’t have time for vocational training or whatever.

But hey, Rich, pat yourself on the back because you never did anything for money. You never left your family at home or missed a kid’s birthday or recital or school play because you had to work. We’ll make you Dad of the Year or whatever. But that’s not reality for most of those guys.

Marvin had been wanting to fight Leonard forever. He fought on Ray’s undercards when Ray was an Olympic upstart making big money and Marvin was laboring for peanuts. So he got that opportunity and he took it. And he got paid. I say good for him.

 

Carlos Monzon regardless of what he did in his personal life was financially set, even owned a ranch in Argentina, made Argentine westerns as an actor, his manager Tito Lectoure put away some of his earnings into a fund. Rocky Marciano was also financially set. Joe Louis was in desperation in 1950 when he came back to fight Ezzard Charles for the title, he owed the IRS something like near $ 1 Million dollars in back taxes, his wide was also suing him for divorce, he also gave away money to leeches of people, gold diggers. People like Louis lived in desperation, they were taken advantage of, poor management. Louis would have gladly came back for the $20 Million Dollar check, but not shrewd fighters that had enough in their nest egg.

 

Thanks for the pat on the back, our son thinks that his Pop is the dad of the year every year, I never left my family high and dry for anything, poor investments. As children we had piggy bank, we never had allowances, you had to do some chores or mow lawns for neighbors, we learned the value of money. Let's pat Marciano and Monzon on their backs, they sacrificed but they were too financially set to do a foolish thing like coming back and losing so the fans could criticize them behind their backs. I could never be bought, that is dignity.

 

seems like we think about the same thing here tbh.

that sport is so dirty that taking one guys wins away is a joke, a few guys won 5 tours and they all cheated and everyone knows it and their wins stand.

he did have the cancer tho, it was before he started winning tdf's. it's said it may have progressed faster due to the doping he did before getting it, but that's speculation i think.

 

I seem to have wound you up.

There is no proof that Thomas was anything other than a boxer in getting ready for Tyson. He may have dealt with injuries, like every pro athlete, but you have merged his music hobby from around the Weaver/Berbick fight and his opiate addiction as a teen and washed up fighter into the version who fought Tyson. False narrative.

Tucker broke and possibly reinjured his hand in Tyson fight, but, fun fact, Tyson won some of his fights after sustaining injuries, such as Ruddock and Savarese. Boxers fight with injuries. BTW Tucker beat a prime Douglas.

Witherspoon lost relevance because he got drilled in round one by Bonecrusher. I attribute that to Bonecrusher.

Douglas was quite clear from the moment he went down against Holyfield too.

 

Berbick was Champ and went the distance with a prime Larry Holmes.

Thomas was a former champ who was still pretty young. Being that Holmes was so past it when Mike fought him, I daresay Thomas had the best jab of any of his opponents (and yeah, I am an admirer of Lennox).

Biggs was undefeated and an Olympic star.

Tubbs was both champion and imo one of the best heavies of the 80s. Past prime Tony even gave Bowe a hard time.

Bonecrusher (though he suffered a TKO at the hand of Holmes) was also a champ, knocking out Tim Witherspoon by 1st round (disinterested Spoon or not) is still quite the flippin' W for anyone.

Tony Tucker was champ and again, one of the best boxers of the latter 80s.

Spinks was a top 3 light heavy and had first beaten (an admittedly past it) Holmes. Once.

Mike's 80s opposition was no joke.

 

Who holds the record for youngest boxer to unify the belts?

 

Thank you. And yeah Thomas was a beast. At the near end of the fight Tyson attacked hi m with everything he had, even leaving himself open, he said he hit Thomas as hard as he could. Tyson delivered 6 or 7 flush shots to the head of Thomas before he went down. shocking display of durability.

 

Also just to point out, tucker was undefeated as well...iirc

 

Why would Holyfield "head butt a tire?" A tire might cut him or cause an abrasion. I would think that IF there was a tire around the heavy bag, it was for practicing uppercuts.

 

Let’s pat the murderer Carlos Monzon on his back for having enough money to live in comfort in … prison?

You don’t see any failings in upbringing for a guy who openly admitted he beat women and actually murdered someone? Did you miss that day in Dad School? Or just tell your kid, ‘beat your wife and save your money … make me proud, son!’

 

You bring up two guys who died young, so who knows how financially set they were. And Monzon didn’t have as many shopping and spending opportunities, being how he was IN PRISON FOR MURDER and all.

 

Donno, you'd have to ask lewis that's what he thought it was for.

 

Sounds like you just don't appreciate sound financial planning.

 

“You know, if there’s one thing I’ve learned from being in the army, it’s never ignore a poo poo. I knew a Major - got poo pooed - made the mistake of ignoring the poo poo. He poo pooed it!
“Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who poo pooed him had been poo pooing a lot of other officers, who poo pooed their poo poos.
“In the end, we had to disband the regiment. Morale totally destroyed… …by poo poo!”