Rocky Marciano's so called punching power

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ali was 6'3" with an 80 " reach and was extremely fast, and accurate , he would be able to hurt modern heavies because he would be able to land on them with regularity.That is not the case with 5'10" 68 " reach slower Marciano.
    Ali 's chin was also tried and tested against punchers like
    Liston
    Foreman
    Lyle
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    Norton
    And so was his facial tissue.
    Not so Marciano.who was kd by two men ,one 38,one 39/41, depending whether you believe him or his Mother.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Would he be taller?
    Would his reach be longer?
    Would he be quicker?
    Marciano was a fighter who was in fantastic physical shape his entire career.With his size and style he had to be.
    What would adding 40lbs do to his endurance, his speed, his stamina?
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano had ample time to defend against Valdes who was the number 1 contender in 53 &54.He got that ranking by beating the number 1 contender Charles who Rocky subsequently defended against twice.Please stop with the excuses for this fight not happening!
     
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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Ali was sat by Cooper and survived home runs from Shavers- sometimes a knock down has more to do with when you got hit then how hard you were hit- Both guys who knocked Marcinao down were among the best counter punchers to fight at the weight.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes that is so.
    Moore subsequently said he never caught Rocky right,but Marciano stated he was buzzed,and blacked out for a couple of seconds,when he got up he started for the ropes expecting a standing 8 count which was waived for title fights.
     
  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    I'll let you draw your own conclusions- I believe Marciano when he says he blacked out, coming forward with that much momentum after a right hand and being jarred with a flush rear hand from Moore would do that to anyone.
     
  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s the thing with modern work out methods. U can get heavier and more explosive and retain most of ur endurance, stamina etc. U r right in that we have no idea how that would affect him. We can only assume
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Sure. But obviously I'm assuming that Marciano is landing his punches.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Man Valdez lost to Moore
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Personally I thought the Walcott kd looked more damaging ,but I'm happy to take Rocky's, word he was always pretty up front.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What part of Valdes being no 1 in 53 &54 do you not get ?
    Charles lost to Valdes who got 2 title shots at Marciano? Charles!
    Do you assume he would be able to land his punches against modern heavies with enough regularity to get them in trouble?
    So you further assume his power would translate favourably against those heavies?
    Do you also assume that he would not be taking appreciable damage to get near enough to land his shots?
    NB Marciano was cut in all his major fights.
    Moore lost to Charles 3 times .Valdes beat Charles.

    Rocky Marciano - 49-0 - Hardest Hitter In Boxing History (A Knockout Documentary) - YouTube
    "He got to me with sheer bulldogging ruggedness."Archie Moore.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    What about the year and 9 months before Valdez-Moore when Valdez was number one contender?
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    These Marciano fanboys will give him every excuse in the book. It's absolutely absurd.

    For the record, I think Marciano would've creamed Valdez.
     
  14. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And when Charles step in that ring vs Marciano who was the number 1 contender??
     
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  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    At this point we may as well just have 1 dedicated Mega Marciano thread since they all end up becoming 30+ page heated discussions revisiting the same topics over and over.
     
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