Why is Tysons competition poo pooed

But as champion, Patterson had his title defense opponents hand piked by Cus D Amato, Roy Cut N Shoot Harris in 1958, Pete Rademacher in 1957, Brian London in 1959, Tom Mc Neeley in 1961. Floyd ignored D Amato's advice on meeting Sonny Liston in Sept 1962 and before that Ingemar Johansson in June 1959.

 

Pop quiz:

1. Which fighter, Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield, has a no contest on his record for failing a drug test?

2. Which fighter, Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield, never failed a drug test?

3. Which fighter, Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield, used a fake dick filled with his baby’s urine to pass drug tests?

 

This is what happens with Tyson fans — they fantasize about being him and doing things that landed him in prison.

 

he made 2 categories in Tyson's "best I've faced" list, and Rooney invited him to train with them

 

He's also 0-7 against opponents who Tyson beat. The end.

 

You know who also never failed a drug test? Hint: He won 7 tour de France titles. Stripped of them now, of course.

Is it your contention that failing a drug test for pot ONE time is worse than evanders use of steroids and HGH on a daily basis for years? If so you really are an all out fan boy with no regard for the truth

 

Or they enjoy epic boxing because Tyson was far more talented, powerful, accurate, entertaining and delivered knockouts far more often and with power that only Holyfield could dream of having. They would have to come out with the " Fentayl " of steroids 10 x stronger.

 

Read your post below this one where you slobber all over Tyson and you will see the meaning of “all out fan boy with no regard for the truth.”

Did Tyson use a fake dick to cheat drug tests? Yes he did.

Did Tyson ever have a result nullified for failing a drug test? Yes he did.

Did Holyfield ever fail a drug test? No, he didn’t.

Now what we have here is proof that: 1) Tyson admits he cheated on drug tests and 2) He failed a drug test.

We have zero proof that Holyfield used banned substances. We have 100% proof that Tyson did.

Everything I just typed is the truth. It is 100% absolutely verifiable truth. Which you have no regard for … because you’re “an all out fan boy.”

You are such an “all out fan boy with no regard for the truth” that you’ll actually believe a convicted ****** who admits to using a fake dick to cheat drug tests as if he was Baby Jesus himself.

SMFH.

 

Bonds never tested positive, to add another name the list. I'm trying to get you to see its time to drop that argument, really it is. Doesnt hold water.

According to documents unearthed in the ongoing steroid-distribution probe in which Holyfield’s name (or some version of it, anyway) surfaced this week, The Real Deal turned up at his urologist’s office in September of 2004 – two months before he fought Larry Donald – to be treated for “hypogonadism"

To be fair, the documents don’t say exactly that. What they say is that somebody named “Evan Fields” was treated for hypogonadism in September, and that the malady was presumably related to the fact that in June of that same year “Evan Fields” obtained a supply of testosterone, Glukor, and injection supplies, and that three weeks later “Evan Fields” picked up five vials of Human Growth Hormone, all from the same Georgia uroligist


Evan Fields and the former heavyweight champion share more than a similarity of names. Evan ordered the drugs from an address as “794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga.,” and his birthday – Oct. 19, 1962 – is the same one BoxRec lists for Holyfield.

And when two Sports Illustrated reporters dialed the number listed on Evan Fields’ prescription, Evander Holyfield answered the telephone.


Evan Fields and the former heavyweight champion share more than a similarity of names. Evan ordered the drugs from an address as “794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga.,” and his birthday – Oct. 19, 1962 – is the same one BoxRec lists for Holyfield.

And when two Sports Illustrated reporters dialed the number listed on Evan Fields’ prescription, Evander Holyfield answered the telephone.

 

Refute one fact I stated or move along.

 

I really have no time for your shenanigans... You sound exactly like the delusional fan by that you are. You would probably follow evander off a cliff, no?

Also you keep bashing Tyson for his life outside the ring. Welcome the other hundreds of boxers now and you can instantly learn boxers tend to live gruff and ruff lifestyles. Does it make it right what Tyson did? No, but I still admire his skill in the ring. Just like I hate Larry Holmes, but j still have to admit he was a very talented boxer. So I must give credit where credit is due.

In evanders case, he has about 2 braincells left, so I'm thinking all that headbutting and dirty fighting he did is finally catching up to him.

 

Most of the time Floyd faced his nr. 1 and then a softer opponent in a year. So not Marciano standard, but far from uncommon either.

The two years he didn't face the nr. 1 was when he went for nr. 3 ranked Harris in 1958 and when he had his rubber match with Ingo, ranked nr. 2 I believe, in 1961. No excuses for Harris instead of Machen, but he had a rematch clause with Ingo so pretty much had to face him.

And I think it's mostly hindsight that has Harris as this gimme. He was nr. 3 after all and undefeated, I believe. SI named him possibly the best contender, so no one seemed to be deemed outstanding at the time. But, yes, the fact is that Floyd sidestepped the nr. 1 contender.

And yes, later on D'Amato wanted to keep him away from Liston, that's true.

London was actually ranked nr. 2 behind Ingo in late '58 due to beating Pastrano. Then he lost to Cooper in early '59 and dropped a bit in the rankings. I don't know when his fight with Floyd was signed, but a bit weak if it was after the loss to Cooper.

A bit of context to the Rademacher fight is that it was only three weeks after defending against nr. 1 Jackson. So it reads like somewhat of a bonus, but definitely a bit of a sideshow.

 

Bokai, A really good post, you explained a lot. But truthfully Cus D Amato did act like an overbearing parent, sometimes that is good, there is a lot of evil out in the world but if you do not allow a fighter or child get his or her feet wet, what happens when you are no longer around? Sometimes someone like D Amato has good intentions but if Patterson was allowed to face tougher competition, he may have been better prepared physically and emotionally to face Sonny Liston. It is kind of like in the fictional movie Rocky III (1982) Rocky fought chumps during his title reign, Mickey protected him. But when a destroyer like Clubber Lang came around, Rocky was not ready, too many soft touches in the ring.

 

I think he at the very least would have needed Evan Field's doctor to even ever make it into the third with Sonny.

 

You saying Joe Czak and Big Yank Ball were hand-picked?