Razor Ruddock hit harder than George Foreman

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    What you say is true when taken for face Value. Now let’s add a little context. One of those lightheavies was 35-0 holding the linear heavyweight title and George was 45 years old when he completely laid him out. In contrast, Ruddock was in his 20’s and beating old men - some of whom were never even known for their durability in the first place. Did Donoven ever stop a man like George Chuvalo ? Foreman sure did. How about an all time great like Joe Frazier who was undefeated and capable of going fifteen rounds ? How about Ron Lyle who rose off the canvas to beat Earnie Shavers ?
     
  2. NoNeck

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    Moorer got stopped in seconds by Tua, and rocked by Cooper and Stewart leading up to the Foreman fight.

    Bonecrusher and Dokes could still fight. I believe that was the first time either had put out (cold in Dokes case not a tko not counting pro debuts).
     
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  3. mr. magoo

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    1. Moorer took 3 years off from the ring. Came back and put together a string of wins over mediocrities before getting stopped by Tua who by the way was a fairly colossal puncher himself.
    2. Cooper and Stewart could both crack and Moorer survived them both to hand them each a stoppage.
    3. Bonecrusher was 36 years old off for 12 months, hadn’t won a fight since 1986 and fought Ruddock at what was THEN a career high weight for him. Dokes showed up at 240 lbs, was past prime and had been stopped coetzee and Holy. Yes that was still a devastating KO by Ruddock however
     
  4. NoNeck

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    We’re talking about chins here. There’s no evidence that Moorer’s chin got worse after the Foreman fight.

    Bonecrusher was a late starter and only got ko’d by Ruddock over two decades unless we’re counting pro debuts which none of us have seen.

    Dokes was highly ranked and could still fight.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Dokes was sparked by Coetzee 7 years earlier in his prime.

    Moorer was 35-0 vs Foreman and didn't do much of anything after Foreman removed him from his senses. Tua was 8 years later against a nothing version of Michael.
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are arguing with facts , good luck they usually go straight over his head.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Bonecrusher fell from exhaustion and after taking multiple shots from Ruddock. Tends to happen when you’re old, out of shape and inactive. Moorer got KTFO and being stopped is something that only happened to him 3 times in nearly 60 fights as a pro. Dokes was the only serious one-punch KO that Ruddock had over an opponent of notoriety and that opponent ( though somewhat durable ) wasn’t exactly Chuvalo and nor was he prime.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    Dokes lost by exhaustion against Coetzee and you know it.

    You also know what happened in the Jirov fight. Moorer’s chin was likely better in his comeback.
     
  9. NoNeck

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    Bonecrusher caught a beatdown. He was a regular incarnation of himself.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    This is one of the stupidest posts i have ever seen in my life and that's being nice about it.

    I knew you were trolling but thought you'd at least show a thread of honesty.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

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    A regular incarnation of himself ? So according to you the Smith of 1989 was no different than the smith of 1986 ? Ok have a nice day
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    I thought he looked pretty good. He was awesome against Tim but it was one round.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    Ruddock scored one of the most brutal knockouts I’ve seen on a Dokes with fresh legs. Coetzee’s performance wasn’t the same.
     
  14. clinikill

    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    Ruddock definitely had elite-tier power with that left hook/uppercut hybrid. I'd easily put him above Foreman when it comes to lights-out, one-punch KO power. That's not to say Foreman didn't have dynamite power, however -- on here it seems that if one dares to rank someone above Foreman in terms of power that they are essentially calling him a featherfist or something.
     
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  15. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Great opponents. Not saying every opponent was for padding. But take a look at most of the names on his record. He fought a lot of ham and eggers.
     
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