Why is Tysons competition poo pooed

Thanks buddy, that is how I feel too.

 

This is a misunderstanding. @Richard M Murrieta isn’t 64 years old.

He’s saying he was born in ‘64. That’s 1864, to be precise. He soured on politics early when he voted for Chester Arthur in the primary and Grover Cleveland won the party nomination.

 

I arrived by horse and carriage, that Chester A. Arthur sure disappointed me, but that Grover Cleveland won it fair and square. Ha Ha. You guys are great, I was born in 1959, next thing you know , it will be 1759 instead of 1959.

 

Floyd Patterson's image is in the dictionary next to the word courage, both boxing and spiritual courage.

I dont agree with him calling Ali Clay for example (just like I dont agree with many people's political stands but this is not a political forum so Im not saying whose) but I admire his, and their, spiritual guts to at least stand by his and their beliefs.

 

How much was your allowance growing up during the Great Depression?

 

Ha Ha. We never got an allowance, but we were given piggy banks by our parents.

 

I don't think Patterson looked different from what he usually did. Yes, they were both HWs according to the limits at the time, but Liston was bigger and much stronger, a bigger difference than between Frazier and Foreman, and a very skilled fighter, so Patterson who really was a come forward fighter just had no trumps in that match-up.

Cus, like most others, could see that clear as day, but Patterson actually wanted a third fight, so I don't think he lacked self-belief.

 

Floyd was a good man and fighter but it is not being responsible to throw a young fighter into the fire right away.

 

I’ve got to go with Lennox as the best of that generation.

 

I’d say the Lewis/Riddick generation came after the Holyfield-Tyson generation. But things overlap, obviously.

 

Holyfield was born in 62 and Lennox in 65; it’s kind of hard for me to say that constitutes a different generation.

 

But Evander turned pro five years earlier.

I guess it all depends on how you look at things, because Evander didn’t move to heavyweight until four years after he turned pro … but his entry point to the big-boy division was much higher (starting with James Tillis, while Lennox naturally began with lower-level prelim type foes).

Basically, Evander was already world champ by the time Lewis fought anyone of note (unless you count Ossie Ocasio, which was four months before Evander became champion).

It’s not that terribly important, but in my way of looking at things the Riddick/Lewis “class” of heavyweights came up behind the Holyfield/Tyson “class.” But maybe it’s more like Lennox and Bowe were freshmen when Holy and Mike were seniors if you want to look at it that way.

 

Fair enough