AI Punch Count : Marvin Hagler vs. Roberto Durán

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  1. Mark Anthony

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  2. Marvelous_Iron

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    so it just counts punches thrown and is unable to differentiate between ones that actually landed vs ones that hit thin air or were blocked/deflected
     
  3. Mark Anthony

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    Some of the shots looked about 60/40 or 50/50 so you have a valid point.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    My great grandfather, Chief Runningsquat, was a full half-blooded Ojibwa/Frenchman. Blind in one eye, nearsighted in the other. He had cataracts, blisters, and gout. We sat and watched this fight together one night. He scored every damn round for Pryor, who he thought was fighting. I'm not sure if that means he scored it for Hagler or not. I wouldn't bet on anything there. He was not a boxing guy. God dang do I miss that man.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Counting punches lol.
     
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  6. Marvelous_Iron

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    I always like the % landed charts during fights, the comment on the video was like "the judges were way off" but then I noticed Duran's count going up and I don't think Hagler had actually been hit yet
     
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  7. Mark Anthony

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    Means a lot if you`re getting hit more than your opponent.
     
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  8. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm a huge Hagler fan and I had him winning this fight.
    That being said, not talking specifially about this fight, IMO only punches that do damage should count. That is why Hagler was robbed vs the running coward Leonard.
     
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  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That’s not how pro fights are scored.

    You should look into amateur, where they just count clean punches. A jab to the nose = a right hand that knocks out someone’s teeth and puts them down for a nine count.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Well this is sure gonna straighten out every decision in history. Can't wait for it to go to live time so we never have a bad decision again, ever.
     
  11. Mark Anthony

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    I don`t completely agree with you but Duran fought better than Leonard v Hagler and scored more shots in the final three rounds than Ray would have if his controversial fight v Hagler had been a 15 rounder.
     
  12. Mark Anthony

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    I get your point but it`s more accurate than some of the mad judging there`s been in recent fights.
     
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  13. Mark Anthony

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    It`s not the whole deal, but if you`re getting hit with loads of shots then you`re not fighting well, the idea is to hit and not be hit.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I scored this fight by 1 point for Hagler. I thought Duran got tired at the end.The judges had a tough job that night and picked the right winner
     
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  15. greynotsoold

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    Dave Moretti's real name is Chief Runningsquat?