Canelo signs three fight deal with Al Haymon

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course I have little faith, because in every scenario I run, Bud is victorious. I've yet to see anyone give valid reasoning as to how and why they think Spence will actually beat Bud. I know you want that to happen and it wouldn't bother me in the least if it did, but what people want and get in this sport are two different things entirely.
     
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  2. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No disrespect, but you are really overrating Crawford
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No.... you Boxrec'd him. He was robbed blind of wins over Arnfield, Fielding and yes... even Callum Smith. Quite frankly the match against Saunders could've gone either way. His best win wasn't a robbery, it was well deserved. His wins over Sirotkin, Akkawy, Nielsen, Cox and Parker were all top notch. I know it flies in the face of your narrative, but Ryder earned that shot at Canelo and is all around a more accomplished Super Middleweight with a superior skillset to Benavidez. With most knowledgeable fans predicting the fight would go the distance. Benavidez is really good, I like him a lot.... but he's there to be hit and flush, quite frankly I'm not sure he gets past Callum Smith, much less Canelo. Now stop getting your hopes up this far out. The letdown is going to be devastating.
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I've wrote an article saying how overrated Crawford an his resume is. No..... I'm not overrating Crawford. I'm merely stating a fact. Spence has never looked good against a slick southpaw. He's also been reacting very poorly when hit flush by non punchers at 147 like Garcia and Ugas, post-accident. Bud will not be standing and trading, he'll pull the same act he pulled against Postol, and play catch me if you can, eventually Spence will walk into something he can't recover from.
     
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  5. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crawford is not a great inside fighter, plus he gets very uncomfortable when pressure is applied. Crawford may have the better movement, faster hands, and ability to switch. But Spence has the better jab, defense, inside fighting, chin, and power. The fighters the Spence fought would beat everyone Crawford found (he did not fight the Same Porter or Brook that Spence did).
     
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    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And Crawford has never fought a fighter like Spence who has good defense, jab, power, ability to cut off the ring, and elite inside fighting.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    All of that might be true.... but still, triangle theories don't mean **** and Bud isn't going to stand there and let Spence have his way with him, nor is Spence going to be able to catch him or pin him down consistently to do enough damage, precisely due to the fact that Bud has better movement, is faster and has a better jab. He also clearly hits harder.

    I disagree clearly... I don't feel like wasting anymore time on this discussion. I think Bud will win by KO, you don't. Let's wait and see who of us will be correct.
     
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    Canelo signs with Haymon and Hearn says "It's a good move for him" but just can't help himself and adds "He’s at that stage now where he’s probably at the closing phase of his career."

    Praise for anyone other than his own fighters is always conditional.
     
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  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I agree but it was never the point I was making
     
    Wizbit1013, Jun 24, 2023
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    You talking Canelo's gonna win all them fights when there's a good chance he will lose against Jermall.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Enjoy this scenario and study:


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  12. C.J.

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    Good to see you back Olu.. Hope your problems have all been sorted out. I just hope its great fight with the legitimately better man on the night getting the win he deserves
     
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    Eddie Hearn and DAZN are pretty much a joke at the moment. I know people get on Ben Shalom's case with Boxxer but Matchroom are doing 10x when you take into account the investment from DAZN. Hearn will be like Mick Hennesy in a few years. He's the most overrated promoter in the time I've followed the sport.
     
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    Benavidez is a 2 time WC, youngest ever in the division, undefeated, beaten better fighters, while Ryder has never been a WC, has 5 losses to every domestic UK fighter you can think of, yet you think he is a more accomplished and skilled fighter than David Benavidez? And you are an actual boxing writer? holy smoke I hope you were drunk when you wrote that.

    Callum smith got walked down and beat up v Ryder, yet you are not sure if Benavidez gets past him? lmao. He is another soft UK domestic fighter.
     
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    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again, who are the guys that Plant, Fielding, Smith, Ryder beat worth a damn? If that’s the requirement to fight Canelo by your logic, please name all these top tier guys all the aforementioned beat. If not, you have no leg to stand on.
     
    Maidanas Gun Tattoo, Jun 24, 2023
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