Who Is The Best Fighter That "Comeback Foreman '', Could Have Possibly Beat?

I meant Stewart of course. Your hatred is so strong it's contagious

 

As is the Win fair for Foreman. Especially, since it happens to be the official result.

You could at least own the **** that you spew.

Fortunately, guilty verdicts are not arrived at through barely tabloid-level story-telling.

Very little you have to comment on, re Foreman, is "on track".

 

I don't often find myself agreeing with you, but on this occasion I must.

 

Yeah hes right Holyfield rarely used all of his skills. To be honest he only fought a perfect fight a couple times in his career. Bowe 2; Tyson 1 and Maybe Lewis 2.
In every other relevant fight he would mess up and get caught or unnecessarily trade or languish on the inside and let the other guy unload on him.
Like George Foreman said "Holyfield loves to taste your power"

 

So any boxers' performance against Holyfield needs to be significantly downgraded because they were made to look significantly better than they actually were? To the extent that he made "made Bert Cooper look like Joe Frazier, Dokes look like an ATG, Vaughn Bean look formidable, Holmes look 36, and Moorer look like a tier 1 90s heavyweight instead of a Frank Bruno tier heavyweight"?

I wonder what that says about Bowe, Tyson, and Lewis.

 

LOL! First career Foreman was a master at setting up KO`s and far quicker, older Foreman would have lost a lot more rounds to older Foreman`s opposition, Chuvalo would have beaten older Foreman.

 

Tyson was pretty bad v Holy and would always look human at heavyweight because he was only 5`10.

 

I think Holyfield had a great performance vs Moorer the 2nd time, he also boxed a smart fight vs Stewart the 2nd time although it was a boring fight.

 

I think some of this is out of context aswell, yes Holyfield got caught by Cooper in the 3rd round just like Holmes did vs Snipes in 7th round of their fight. But for the most part he battered Cooper from pillar to post.

Dokes comeback refreshed in the late 80s and in some ways looked better, Holyfield was also still a tad green at Heavyweight. And it was good test for him against former World Champion who was rated top 5 Heavyweight at that time.

Bean was a spoiler and very durable he was only stopped once by Vitali in 11 rounds when he past his best, the fight against Holyfield was a boring one but Holyfield was never in danger of losing. Plus Bean came close to beating Moorer only losing by SD so he wasn't that bad.

Holmes was coming off beating Mercer and had regained his mojo in 1992 after coming off 3 straight losses in 88. Holmes also came within a whisker of beating McCall after losing to Holyfield who was fresh off upsetting Lennox Lewis.

Holyfield had health issues and looked lackluster vs Moorer which we are all aware of.

 

I agree on the stewart renatch, but its mot a "significant fight", he boxed well vs mercer as well. I disagree on moorer 2. He was being outboxed and then just stopped moorer with brute force because moorer had no punch resistance.
He looked very off in that fight as well

 

Alas, the source of this viewpoint is a broad-brush attempt at de-valuing Foreman's effort against Holyfield. You could apply the same sweeping approach to just about any top class fighter.

Sometimes, people conveniently ignore background context and forget that tactical decisions do not always have the desired effect or fail altogether at the highest level of the sport.

 

Really ? i thought Holyfield looked pretty sharp vs Moorer he had him on the floor like a dozen times didn't he ? yeah he didn't box vs Moorer but his combinations looked sharp. I remember one knockdown he knocked Moorer half way across the ring, against a Southpaw like Moorer the best option was to make him back up and over power him instead of trying to box with him. I think that's why Holyfield employed that tactic rather than trying to fight a technical fight vs him.

 

Now give the excuse(s) for Foreman looking limited against Stewart during the same period.

 

There is no excuse Stewart was a big puncher who could be dangerous if he was allowed to get into the fight, against Tyson he was visibly scared and was blown away without ever getting into the fight. But against Holyfield, Moorer, he showed he could be dangerous as he hurt both fighters badly.

If you look at any top rated 90s Heavyweight during that era they all have off nights or bad performances.

Lewis was KO'ed in 2 by McCall.

A prime Bowe got a gift decision vs a past it Tubbs.

Mercer lost to journeyman Jesse Ferguson, and got a draw vs another journeyman in Marion Wilson. Yet went on to give Lennox Lewis a close fight.

Holyfield was badly hurt vs Cooper.

Moorer was almost stopped in the 1st round vs Cooper.

Morrison dropped 3 times and stopped in 1 round by Bentt.

It doesn't mean that just because they had bad performances or off nights, that they weren't still very formidable Heavyweights at their best.

 

So the excuse is that Stewart was scared of Mike Tyson. Got it.

I find it interesting that nobody would ever pick Stewart over Schmeling, 95 Tyson, or Pinklon Thomas.