(PRIME) Errol Spence vs (PRIME) Miguel Cotto

Well of course you need context what ? Spence has been visibly shaken up by single punches from fighters that aren't noted as punchers. Spence also hasn't fought any top tier elite fighters yet with Crawford being first one hes fought.

Well isn't the fact that Margarito could take alot of punishment means he does have a good chin ?

All we know about Spence's chin so far is that mediocre punchers like Ugas, Garcia, had him on bambi legs with him even turning his back on Garcia. Yet you think Spence's chin is on the level of Margarito ? Actually baffling. If Spence even took half the amount of flush punches that Margarito took off a puncher like Mosley he'd be staring up at the lights.

 

When you get through talking, Margarito got knocked out and Spence never was. Brook hit just as hard as any fighter that Margarito has fought and Brook was touching Spence up real nice. Just because he is not getting beat in the face on a regualr basis doesn't mean he can't take the shot. The question is not who can take the most punishment. The question is can Spence take as good a shot as Margarito and my answer is, that he can because he has. Now, can he take a beating like Margarito, we might get that answer in the next fight and then again, we might not.

 

how does he have far superior record he lost 6 times mate your ignoring that he was over rated cotto

 

He lost to the likes of Canelo at Middleweight, and two ATGs in Pacquiao, Mayweather, theres a huge difference between the fighters Cotto fought and the fighters Spence has fought.

 

As I keep saying and you seem to gloss over it and not respond to it, Spence has been on bambi legs by average punchers and even turned his back. So no I don't believe Spence has a better chin than Margarito in whatever scenario you wish to put forth, whether it be single punches or taking a sustained beating.

Your bringing up Margarito getting stopped, yet I've already told you he was hit round after round by hellacious shots from a puncher in which he took a beating. Mosley hit Margarito with shots that Spence wouldn't of took end of.

Arguing Spence is a better fighter than Margarito is totally reasonable because I think he is aswell, but he certainly isn't more durable than Margarito end of.

 

He ain't fought damn much...

 

He ain't fought that much that's why...

 

I see you conveniently left out Austin Trout and Margarito. He was on his way to losing the 2nd Margarito fight as well if Margaritos previously damaged eye didn't give out. Yes I believe Ennis, Spence and Crawford beat Trout. I'll pick all three to beat Margarito as well. I didn't even mention Sadam Ali because that was Cottos last fight but all three beat him as well.

 

Crawford and Spence have never fought at Jr Middleweight so thats a big assumption. Trout came very close to beating the likes of Canelo, Charlo, and was unlucky not to get the nod in those fights. Absolutely no guarantee they beat Trout at Jr Middleweight.

The Margarito loss has a big asterisks over it which I'm not going to bring up.

And like you said Cotto was shopworn and it was his last fight vs Sadam Ali so no need to bring that up to discredit Cotto.

 

Spence south paw stance, jab, endurance, size and relentless pressure would break Cotto down into a late stoppage!

 

@Manfred I told you about Spence's chin being suspect, being shaken by mediocre punchers before Crawford fight was always a warning sign.

 

The shots that Spence was taking would have disabled any fighter at 147.

 

He's an elite fighter but his chin too me was always a bit of a question mark.

 

I hear you. I know he takes a lot of shots but his chin has held up pretty good. I always felt that he couldn't stand up under Crawford's shots. Especially after the Ugas fight.