Tyson Fury won't fight in December against Usyk

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Will he make s**** tons of money fighting exactly Wilder, though ? Based on what is that exactly?
    On the big numbers Wilder draw on his "Big return" fight against his best bud Helenius, aka less than 75k. PPV.
    Your suggestion is absolutely silly. Usyk to be stripped for refusing to fight his mandatory, just to try to get a fight with Wilder, who as well know is a very good talker, and just that.
    The moment he has to make the big fights, and something always comes up. Fury and Wilder are very alike, i'm sorry, but you can't make my mind that first Wilder deserve a title shot, and second that Wilder based on your opinion as fan will actually take the fight.

    And i'm also curious what split Wilder will want for that fight?
    Will he agree to 70-30, as he is not even a mandatory? Does he deserve more, as he is not a draw, not a mandatory, not holding a title, he literally brings nothing to the table really, but will want big split.

    Wilder is a madman, wanting 70-30 with no titles over Ruiz split.

    And yeah we known for a fact that he loves to talk, but he never back his talking, this is the problem.
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is a marketing genius
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And this is if we include the pathetic Chisora fight. The last serious opponent was Whyte, and that was In April 2022.

    But i think Fury will fight now in September, but it will be hybrid fight or once again a b.c. fight, Ngangu, Jones or smth. b.c. like that.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah sure, more like marketing mug, completely incompetent im*****, literally lost 90% of his fanbase in a span of a month or so, and then continue to leaking with every week and every interview he or his stupid father do.
    More like Marketing Fraud. Fury should be forever thankful to Frank Warren and his PR team for coming with the b.c. mental story, to cover his dirty pop as a drug cheat, ducked Klitschko rematch, and cover his **** and not being asked about it, as he has mental problem, etc b.c.
    And it was a good job, but only on a low IQ people, as anyone with more than 2 brain cells, could see through the b.c. and excuses.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If I was Tyson Fury I'd retire and let Wilder KO Usyk.
     
  6. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder/Helenius did poorly, but he was 225k in the Ortiz rematch and at least one of the Fury fights went > 1 million. The Helenius fight was too expensive ($75) and Wilder was coming off consecutive losses. Well promoted, I think Wilder/Usyk probably would do 500k buys. Whether Wilder "deserves" the shot is irrelevant, but even so he clearly is a more credible challenger than Dubois!! He's probably worth more as a PPV attraction than Usyk because he's an American, so I'd guess the split would be something like 55/45 Usyk or maybe 60/40 at most. Whatever the split, it's Usyk's biggest $$ option.

    More to the point, what is Usyk's alternative? Against Dubois he won't make a fraction of what he'd make against Wilder, nor is that belt important to his marketability unless he's getting a chance at the undisputed. He clearly wants it and Fury clearly doesn't care about it, so why should Usyk do Fury's dirty work by keeping the undisputed alive while Fury heckles him on Twitter?

    You think I'm slagging off Usyk. I am not. He's a great but aging fighter who has gone above and beyond to fight Fury, and now it's time for him to move on. Wilder would give him his biggest fight by far.
     
  7. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tyson "soon" Fury

    No pond is big enough for this duck.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Muhahhahah, you are hitting new lows. Typical Fury fanboys. They are jumping from Fury to Wilder and vice versa, cause it's all they have.
     
  9. Glass 1/2 Empty

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    I think it's highly likely The Gypsy Queen will never have another heavyweight fight.
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wish the WBC would just go ahead and strip Fury. They won't do it in time for Usyk, but hopefully this situation won't be tolerated for too long.
     
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  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bro all you have is that Ortiz 225k. Fight, but you forget that Wilder was A CHAMPION BACK THEN. He is not now. He is nobody, and yeah exactly, he has 2 loses on his record.

    Helenius was his return fight, there was big promotion, as the second coming of Ali, blq, blq, blq. And the guy couldn't even sell a 100k.
    He is no draw, he is not selling PPV.
    Tell me his top 10 PPV.
    Fury fight, only prove my point, he needs a huge name to sell anything.
    And actually 2 out of the 3 Fury fights sold bad.
    First Fury fight sold 325k. in the USA.
    Second one was 800K. according to Bob Arum. The 1.2m. figures was with the free streams, aka online watching, again according to Arum.
    Third fight sold "just under" 600K.

    And yeah you are a madman if you think Wilder deserve 45% against Usyk, being a No-Draw, and Usyk s*** on any Wilder number to date.
    As far as Wilder being a better match then Dubois, is yet to see. Dubois is at least young. Just because he had a bad night, doesn't mean he is a bad fighter. At least he is young and hungry.

    Usyk has better options, you forget he sign with the Saudi, so whoever he fight in Saudi in December, he will still get Huge money.
    But how about Wilder deserve the fight first, by fighting and beating AJ first?
    Or better, fight Ruiz now on a fair split, and then goes on and fight Usyk in December, which would be fair if Wilder beats Ruiz, then he will have that extra by beating Ruiz.
     
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  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    They won't strip him because they collect 3% of his purse per fight
     
  13. Johnny1987

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    WBC should just look after themselves and their business. Strip Fury now, put the WBC title on the line between Usyk & Joshua for undisputed and collect their 3% of a likely 150m pot in Saudi. Forget Wilder for now, give him Whyte. Fury is costing the WBC and we all know Mauricio is a greedy pig who wants that dough. Probably need to put a stop to it now before they lose out big.
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What they should do and i think you will agree on that is this:
    Strip this m******, order Ruiz vs Wilder for the title, make it 50-50 fair split, and the f**** winner to fight Usyk in December for Undisputed. I don't think anyone will be disappointed with that scenario.

    And this is it.
    And AJ can wait and look from the side or rematch Whyte in a meaningful fight(oh god i hope this fight not happen, it's terrible).
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And as people on here know i love AJ, but hell he ain't deserving a third fight with Usyk.
    The right scenario will be this:
    Strip Fury, order Ruiz vs Wilder for WBC Champion, make it 50-50 split. If one of them reject, calls the next in line, which will be AJ.
    Then make the f**** Undisputed at Saudi in December, and this will be a proper finish for the year.