Was Roy Jones The Most Dominant Boxer Ever

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know he doesn't have the resume or longevity but in his prime for about 8 years was he the most dominant boxer considering the domination vs the fighters he was facing.

    I'm not talking about an Edgar Berlanga situation where you knock out lower tier opposition in the 1st round

    Roy was beating legit opposition for world titles

    Such as Bernard Hopkins, Montell Griffin, James Toney, Reggie Johnson, Virgil Hill and others
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    RJJ is a candidate for GOAT in his prime
     
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  3. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Could you clarify what you mean by dominant?
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Domination of victory while factoring in competition
     
  5. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    So the length of the run doesn't matter? Then maybe that 3 years or so of Terry McGovern is the answer. Unless you want film of every fight in the run to see how dominant they were. Then it might Mayweather? He did it for longer and only has 2 fights that could have not gone his way and he beat both of them clearly in the rematch. Although that might be more of a consistency thing than a dominance thing.
     
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  6. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like what you are saying. Let's say a 5 year run minimum
     
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  7. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Sidenote but that McGovern run is nuts.

    Noteworthy victories:
    KO10 Tim Callahan
    KO14 Austin Rice
    KO12 Casper Leon
    KO18 Patsy Haley
    PTS25 Joe Bernstein
    KO5 Sammy Kelly
    KO10 Billy Barrett
    KO3 Johnny Ritchie
    KO1 current bantamweight champ Pedlar Palmer
    KO1 Patsy Haley
    KO2 Harry Forbes
    KO8 current featherweight champ and legend George Dixon
    KO3 Oscar Gardner
    PTS6 George Dixon
    KO3 Frank Erne (WTF?)
    KO7 Joe Bernstein
    KO2 Joe Gans*
    KO4 Oscar Gardner
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Close but it has to be Wlad.
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    With Roy, you'd have to bracket it from 97 to 2001 in order to skip the DQ to Griffin. He dominated everyone in that period with the possible exception of Harding, who was competitive until injuries got the best of him.

    Mayweather was similarly dominant from 2009 to 2013 and fought better comp.

    Tyson went 13-0 from Fraizer to Williams, but it was over four years.

    Robinson probably had a streak at welter, but it wasn't filmed.

    Donaire from 2007 to 2012 was as dominant as anyone.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would he has a very strong argument for certain.

    Infact if you at look when he won his first title against Hopkins, all the way up to the Ruiz fight which was 10 years apart. Jones probably lost only about 16 rounds in a decade that's absolutely insane.

    There is a few other candidates though, Hagler was very dominant when he become champion he often won his fights very convincingly without losing many rounds. Duran outside of the De Jesus loss was very dominant at Lightweight. Tyson of course was very dominant during his reign also. Sugar Ray Robinson only had 1 loss in 130 fights so he was very dominant. Ricardo Lopez barely lost any rounds during his 50 or so fights undefeated, but he was fighting at Minimumweight and the opposition wasn't that strong to be fair.
     
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  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Joe Louis could enter the competition. Over 14 years passed from his loss to Schmeling, then taking the title, to his loss to Charles.

    And Julio Cesar Chavez

    Of course RJJ remains in the competition:
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  12. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Yes, Jones has the visceral element only a few boxers have ever had. Maybe even more eye-catching than Foreman or Pacman. The only comparison that comes to mind in terms of what he could do at max capacity is Tyson, and even then--Tyson was a mastermind of a system, RJJ invented his own playbook. RJJ is the man, even if the Roycott was real and valid as well.
     
  13. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    He had solid 10 year run - after first Peter fight - where noone came even close to challanging him.

    Finito Lopez was also head and shoulders above anyone He met at strawweight until He met Rosendo Alvarez. Solid 8 year run of total dominance from winning a title to first challanging fight.
     
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  14. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Certainly a case can be made outside of Griffin I and Harding he barley lost a single round from Hopkins to Ruiz/Tarver.
     
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  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    For a while he looked great, no one could touch him.
     
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