How many heavyweights could have beat Caracas Foreman?

The WBO.

 

So, not universally rated; more wbo intercontinental level, last-chance-saloon rated.

 

Do you know what the “W” stands for? And did you watch Krasniqi fight Brewster? I think he was Ring rated but not in an annual.

 

That Thompson was better than the version of Frazier that met Foreman. So was Calvin Brock.

 

58-60 Liston has at least a 60% chance.
Most versions of Ali up until 75.
Usyk has a chance if he can handle the body shots and outjab Foreman.
Stewart trained Lewis could pull it off but it would be tense from start to finish. Very dangerous matchup for both guys


80-82 Holmes is 50/50. Would be amazing to see either way.
Louis of the Baer fight is a formidable opponent with potential for fireworks.

 

It's a shame that you lack the common ****ing sense to know that Foreman not only beat a Southpaw (one who was heavyweight champion and at 45 years of age nonetheless) but also beat opponents bigger than him as well.

I find it especially baffling, that you didn't know Foreman beat a southpaw when it was at worst, his second most famous win, and one of the best wins in heavyweight history. Are you seriously this clueless?

 

Didn't Foreman have a dead leg for the Norton fight? I'd say the Foreman of the Ali fight was more physically capable, especially if he isn't fighting under hot Zaire conditions.

 

I disagree. Foreman actually seemed to have a plan and a jab against Norton.

 

Had Ali fought like he was supposed too, bouncing and poking, George would've looked the same, just against a much higher caliber of fighter and fight IQ. Being a power puncher and having Norton on the back foot was about as easy to jab and make a game plan for as you can get at the highest level.

 

Untrue. Frazier rocked and even stunned Foreman early in their bout with that left hook of his..... Foreman didn't exactly abandon his plan.

My point is, their's no basis for saying Zaire Foreman was better. He didn't look better (for whatever reason, whether you think it was his lack of gameplan, quality of opponent, and/or stylistic match up or some combination of the 3) and he almost certainly wasn't in better shape endurance wise.

 

Caracas Foreman...wasn't he that South American chap who fought Corbett to a 169 round draw?

 

My reasoning is in my original comment, I think he is more fit for fantasy matchups as his leg was numb for the Norton fight and he says it in the post-fight-ring interview.

 

Agree, one of those clear ‘the challenger ain’t leaving without this belt” performances- he looked a complete ‘fighting’ machine in there. Never really got those who were impressed with Zaire Foreman myself. He looks as cumbersome and lacking in the intelligence to adapt, as a fair few pundits said he was, in their pre fight predictions.

 

I agree. He also didn't display the jab he did against Frazier, and Norton. I personally think Jamaica Foreman was the best version, all things considered.