Deontay Wilder vs prime George Foreman

Technical? For real?

 

Wilder by KO.
Neither is very skilled, but Wilder is way faster, and that gives him the win.

 

This is not a videogame where you get yo combine the best traits of young Foreman with the best traits of old Foreman (better chin, composure, punch selection etc)
You have to take young Foreman with his pluses and minuses, and he did not posses a chin that was anywhere near as good as old Foreman.

 

Cause he's way faster and will outland Foreman.

 

Lyle would like a word with you.

 

Good post.

 

So Foreman is less technical than Wilder for you? Ok, won't argue with that.

 

Foreman should win this 3/4 times.

But a cause for concern is that Big George always moved forward, fought almost exclusively at long to mid range, and relied on parrying punch traffic coming in instead of using angles and head movement. That combination of moving forward while staying in Wilder's preferred range, and his tendency to absorb and deflect punches instead of avoiding them, means he'll be in the maw of the cannon longer than a betting man should be comfortable with, particularly since Wilder has 4 inches of reach on him. Despite all this, I'll take the superior chin and the much greater physical strength of Foreman in a barn burner.

 

Foreman W KO 2

 

How about neither were technical and any technical superiority one might have over the other will be a non factor in this type of fight.

 

Foreman is not as fast as Wilder and DW does not engage in a conventional boxing match with anyone. I think DW would fight GF like he does everybody, he'd keep distance between them with his feet and then catch GF coming toward him with his speed, length, and power. IMO DW maintains and closes distance faster than anybody and he can knockout anybody, and he can do it anytime during a fight, his power does not diminish during a fight. He might be the worst opponent possible for the 70s GF.

I think DW would knock GF out before GF gases, but if it the fight went long enough for GF to fatigue, it would be dangerous for GF's health. I don't even want to think about GF being tired and stumbling around like he did vs. Peralta, Ali, Young...in the same ring with DW.

 

yeah, I was looking at it like how proven each one is, and obviously Foreman is a lot more battle tested

I just don't see Wilder being able to brawl with Foreman like the Lyle fight, Wilder's right hand has never really been used in a situation like that, it always involves set up and in a lot of Wilder's fights that happens when they are sort of stagnant for a moment and pacing in front of each other, I'm not sure if prime Foreman ever gives that opportunity or at least before he hurts very badly/more than likely knocks Wilder out, a lot of the rights Lyle landed were more in a quick "1, 2" fashion as they were coming together in an exchange, Wilder's right hand always has a lot more set up and is usually telegraphed pretty bad, I'm not sure if prime Foreman would fall for it and I think he would probably be able to beat Wilder to the punch when Wilder pulls back/loads it

 

Peralta was a clever boxer and Foreman was still green only having 16 pro fights, Young was a clever boxer, Ali relied on the rope a dope to wear out Foreman. That's not really a good comparison is it ? Wilder is certainly not a clever defensive boxer is he ?

Wilder was gassed vs Fury after only a few rounds in their 3rd fight, was getting outboxed by the likes Szpilka, almost lost to an ancient Ortiz, journeyman Harold Sconiers put Wilder down for longer than 10 seconds.

This is a guy that has lost multiple rounds for B, C, level type fighters. Has not beaten one elite Heavyweight fighter in his entire career, and his boxing skills are pretty limited.

Yes Wilder has power in his right hand and it is a devastating punch, but Foreman also has a devastating punch. And is a better fighter overall who is more battle tested.

 

Foreman IMO is a top-10 ATG and Wilder is not. Fight will go that way. Wilder of course has a puncher's chance.

 

nobody's calling wilder a clever defensive boxer, but he is far from a face first slugger.

fury 3 was bad strategy, in a fight vs a bigger and better guy who was a heavy fav. he ko'd ortiz with very nice punches. szpilka and sconiers did those things and it didn't end so good.

70's foreman v wilder is not going to the cards so winning rounds is irrelevant.

he has that power in both hands. he delivers it more consistently with the right for sure.

that all said, i think this is a live fight that either guy could end up looking great. anyone making the argument that wilder obviously wins is nuts, but i think the same for the opposite.