Deontay Wilder vs prime George Foreman

Well the poster above was using examples of Foreman gassing, one of those fights being when Foreman was novice with 16 pro fights. But again no context with those points what so ever. Young, Peralta, were clever boxers who used movement and their defense to frustrate Foreman. And BTW Foreman stopped Peralta in the 10th round in their rematch so his stamina couldn't of been that bad.

Again i don't see how any of these fights are relevant to a fight with Wilder, because Wilder is not a defensive or clever boxer. He relies on his right hand at distance to snipe opponents at long range. Wilder is a power puncher and most likely this will end within first 6 rounds between two very big punchers exchanging leather, so neither of the fights above have relevance on how a fight vs Wilder would go.

Well pretty much all of his KO's have come from a long right hand that's his money punch, very rarely that i can remember Wilder hurting an opponent or stopping them with anything else apart from the right hand. I think Foreman has much better variety in his offense

 

I agree with the bad comparison thing, it is, as all 3 were smart, clever boxers, but the Peralta example includes the rematch in which George was again looking frustrated by a smart boxer and at the time he was 27-0 and became the #1 mandatory contender that month, so he wasn't so green 2nd time around.

 

Well there's no footage of the rematch that i know of, so i don't know how much success Peralta had in the 2nd fight. All i know is that Foreman did stop him in the 11th round, which shows Foreman did have some stamina to stop a tricky boxer late on.

Again none of this is relevant though as you rightly said, because Wilder has none of those attributes. And more than likely a fight between two big punching Heavyweights will end in the first 6 rounds.

 

10th but yes, George got there in the end. But still struggled to the point where Jose Torres ringside report, mentioned that somebody next to him at ringside thought at one stage that Peralta was the fighter tabbed a 'future champion'. Torres also went on to say, accurately, that "Peralta simply succumbed the strength of a heavier opponent, there was no class, no technique, not even skill" on display.

 

Just to go slightly off topic why is there no footage of their 2nd fight ? it seems quite strange that there isn't. Because it's one of the rare times in Foreman's 1st career where he gets a stoppage late.

 

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This is a combo, not a single punch.

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In this case, Foreman fell from one punch. However, I didn't say that Foreman can't be knocked down with one punch, but much harder than Wilder. If Wilder had taken this many beatings...

Foreman can be knocked down with one punch, but not this easily:

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My initial reaction was Foreman by KO, but then having watched the fight between Foreman and Ali again recently, it's quite startling how many times Ali teed off on George with fast, straight punches. He literally teed off on George at times. Foreman cannot afford to get hit like that by Wilder, who though he does often throw those looping, amateurish rights, can also throw them perfectly straight too.
Wilder's no technician, but his jab is pretty good and he uses his reach well. (Not sure what his reach is, BTW)
Also being some 3-4 inches taller than George doesn't hurt.
Overall I back George, but Wilder's power is so inhuman he has a solid chance of an upset.

 

There should be as it was on a heavyweight TV bill that featured Ellis, Chuvalo and Jean Terrell's brother. I thought i'd seen it (but i must be thinking of Fight I) so maybe it's been wiped?

 

Of 46 Wilder fights he has only fought 5 people smaller than George Foreman of the Joe Frazier fight. He has been in with much bigger, stronger people than Foreman and he has knocked all of them out except Tyson Fury (6-9, 275+), maybe the only guy who could defeat DW H2H? Wilder could fatigue Foreman with his foot movement, but he probably wouldn't bother to do anything special for GF, a much smaller opponent, who was mediocre in speed and boxing ability. GF managed to steam roll a night club singing, partying, disinterested champ and a guy who had beaten Ali. Other than that, GF struggled with 196 pound Peralta who seldom used his right hand, lost to Ali, lost to Young, barely beat Lyle...If DW wanted to he could tire GF with movement, but he probably would just feel GF out for a few rounds, figure him out, and then put him to sleep like he did everybody except Tyson Fury and he even came close to knocking him out.

Maybe some of you remember different, but I don't remember DW being hurt by anyone other than Tyson Fury? Has DW had a mark on him? DW has dominated everybody except Fury and nobody else in history has had to deal with a "freak" of size, speed, skill, and overall ability like Fury. If DW had come along in an era without Fury he might not have had a close fight in his career.

 

Have you even watched Wilder's fights ? this is a man who lost multiple rounds to the likes of Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, who are C and B level type Heavyweights. Was behind on points and almost stopped by an ancient Ortiz, not to mention Wilder lost pretty much every round to Fury outside of the knockdowns and was destroyed in their 2nd fight. Not to mention Wilder was put down for over 10 seconds against a complete nobody in Sconiers. Yet you think Wilder is some H2H GOAT ? absolutely laughable.

Journeyman Sconiers as i said had him down for over 10 seconds and was robbed of a KO victory, ancient Ortiz almost stopped him in the 8th round of their 1st fight.

I have no words for such a ridiculous post.

Usyk
Louis
Holmes
Tyson
Lewis
Liston
Ali

Would absolutely embarrass Wilder.

 

Sconiers, Nichols and Romanov want a word

 

Ortiz hurt him in their first fight -

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As recognised by his corner at 1:57 of this video - "Joshua came back from his moment (presumably a reference to AJ's fight with Wlad), this is your moment to dig deep". Which tbf, Wilder then did.

 

Thanks, you're right, Ortiz did hurt him, I forgot about that. Ortiz was a 6-4, 240, southpaw who could fight and pace himself. Coming back from being hurt like that and Beating Ortiz was impressive.

 

Wilder is 6'7" with an 83" reach, decent hand speed, and an obscenely powerful right hand that he's good at landing. He's also got a decent chin and as much heart as anyone. The attributes alone make him really, really dangerous, even if his skills alone are pretty mediocre.

 

That's interesting. That Foreman took his time and seemed only interested in using his left hand was remarked upon. But, of the reports I've read on the fight, it seems Foreman apparently didn't lose a round.