Strip Usyk of his belts. He’s too inactive.

This is the same BS that we had to endure for the Floyd-Manny saga.

Dubois is nobody relevant.

He’s a mandatory.

Usyk getting one of his highest purses from that split doesn’t make it fair, genius.

That is an undisputed legacy fight for Tyson, for all of the belts, which ONLY Usyk can give him.

The only other mega money fight out there would be AJ. But at the minute, there’s no huge interest in a Tyson-AJ fight.

So without fighting AJ, where else can Tyson go?

Where else can Tyson go for huge money?

His reputation this year has taken a HUGE hit.

So other than Joshua, which other opponent could he fight in Saudi or Wembley, for huge money, where the PPV would be huge??

You are only looking from Tyson’s perspective.

It doesn’t matter what Usyk’s previous purses and revenue has been.

For this specific Undisputed match up, he brings more to the table than 30%.

If the fight doesn’t happen, Fury’s reputation, resume and legacy SUFFER.

So how can Usyk only be worth 30%??

 

The originals are in Fury’s cabinet?

Ha!

Really?

You’re talking about years ago, where many things have happened since.

Tyson couldn’t fight Wlad in the rematch due to personal reasons.

He then retired for 3 years.

Tyson then CHOSE to come back into the sport, whilst AJ was the leading HW.

Tyson then CHOSE to fight Wilder for the WBC belt, where he hoped to become the undisputed champ afterwards.

Tyson has since spoken many times about wanting to become the undisputed champion for his legacy.

If the belts didn’t matter, then he’d now be retired, and he’d never have come back to fight Wilder in the first place.

Read carefully: Whilst he is ACTIVE, he absolutely needs to fight Usyk to become the undisputed HW champion. Whilst he is ACTIVE, there is nobody else for him to fight, other than an AJ fight, but only purely for financial reasons, and only if there’s still enough interest.

 

The Floyd-Manny saga:


The people who tried to justify Floyd’s ridiculous $40m flat fee proposal:

“It’s fair because there’s no way that Manny could make that much money fighting anybody else”


The obvious counter to that, was:

Floyd couldn’t generate that huge PPV revenue with ANYBODY else.

Manny played his part in making that the biggest grossing fight in history.

Manny played his part in creating the demand.


The same applies to Fury.

I can do basic maths.

At the moment, with his reputation in tatters, Tyson can’t generate huge money at Wembley, with huge PPV numbers across the board.

For that to happen, it would have to be a fight with Usyk, where Usyk would bring his undefeated record, his belts and his reputation to the table.

Only Usyk and AJ can generate huge PPV for Tyson at Wembley.

But AJ is currently out of the picture.

So now only Usyk can create those types of numbers what you are looking at. All of which means that he deserves a much bigger percentage.

Because without Usyk, there’s no huge interest.

Without huge interest, those numbers don’t EXIST.

I’ll let you try and work it all out.

 

because its down to business fella this isnt tennis the deals are negociated who cares about having most belts he beat one fella to get them thats joshua whos european level hes not world level if he was worth more than 30 per cent why can he not get more than a few million against dubois its cos he doesnt generate money ffs funny how your ignoring that lol

 

No he is not.

He chose money over legacy with Saudis.

Usyk was talking about human rights, but suddenly he needs money from the country, who did this

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Dear God, another lordlosh in the face of Loudon!

Krassyuk even said it himself, so did the Saudis - Fury is the bigger draw. Yet, the Usyk fanatics tell you the opposite.

 

In this case usyk would have fought wilder for far more money and reputation and easy win . Wba cleared the way making wilder next mandatory . Team dubois just followed orders and no belt would be stripped from usyk .

Usyk ducked wilder because he simply feared to loose , so easy

Generally : why do many here defend usyk whatever happens ? He is an ukrainian smarta## and in fact he is navigating carefully to avoid high risk opponents and chooses fighters like dubois inatead covering behind the mandatory bla bla.

Usyk faced just three fighters in his entire hw career - just one of them noteworthy - and some here try to put him in line with holyfield ![/QUOTE]

 

Who cares?

Fury cares.

Otherwise he wouldn’t have given numerous interviews saying that he wants to be undisputed, and he’d now be retired in Morecombe.


Ignoring what?

Nobody is interested in Daniel Dubois.

He’s a mandatory who nobody cares about.


Do you think that Tyson would now generate HUGE money against Daniel Dubois??


Usyk deserves more than 30%, because other than AJ, an undisputed fight with Usyk is the only other fight that can generate Tyson a huge Wembley sell out with a huge PPV.

That’s why.

It takes interest to make a huge fight.

Usyk brings that interest for a huge undisputed fight.

So Usyk plays his part in creating that demand.

 

I’m not debating any politics.

The Fury fight would already have HAPPENED had Tyson not priced himself out with a ridiculous purse split.

 

The split Usyk agreed on which means Usyk confirmed what he's worth. Just a reminder...

 

Tyson Fury's guaranteed purse for his mandatory Whyte was $29.5 million. Fury's guaranteed purse for Chisora III was $25 million.

So, probably around there.

Is the $25 million to $29.5 million range huge money? Doesn't seem too shabby. Not counting they sold 80,000+ tickets to the Whyte fight and 60,000+ tickets to the Chisora fight.

 

Dear God, another genius on the board.

Where have I said that Fury isn’t the bigger draw??

I am not a Usyk fanatic.

If you’ve been reading the thread, I have said that I’ve been a huge fan of Fury’s, since he came onto the scene in 2007/2008.

Tyson is absolutely the bigger draw. 100 million per cent.

But a 70-30 split is disgraceful, which has now killed the fight, which now means that he earns NOTHING.

He’s not fighting.

There’s no credible fights out there for him.

No other huge money fights.

Everyone relevant is tied up, or out of the picture.

 

Usyk has been trying to fight Fury.

Dubois has been lined up for a while as the next mandatory, if a Fury fight couldn’t be made.

There is nothing out there to suggest that Usyk has ducked Wilder.

If so, you can give me the specifics.

 

Usyk called his bluff, by agreeing, but only if he got the same split in the rematch.

Tyson then flatly refused as the split was ridiculous.

And that speaks volumes.

Fury RIGHTLY turned that split down because it was a joke. Yet at the same time, he wanted Usyk to accept it in the first place.

 

One uneducated Irish gipsy made fools of the r***rd Krassyuk and low-intelligence Usyk (sorry, Usyk seems like a nice guy, I don't deny that, but he is silly) by offering them 30% and they decided they've any balls to accept it. Once it turned out they don't have any, their fanbase turned it into "Usyk called his bluff". Ok, assume he did so. Add the fact those same people claim Fury wasn't even training - this lays the perfect path for Usyk to accept anything and just beat Fury, especially with a no-rematch clause. But he turned it down. You can try making it more complicated, but in the end, he is the guy with claims bigger than his balls.