Deontay Wilder vs prime George Foreman

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jun 29, 2023.


Who wins and how

  1. Foreman KO TKO

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  2. Wilder KO TKO

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  3. Foreman UD

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  4. Wilder UD

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  5. Wilder SD

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  6. Foreman SD

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  7. Draw

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Have you even watched Wilder's fights"

    You clearly haven't, at least not with any intelligence or understanding of what's going on. Wilder has taken relatively little punishment in his non-Fury 2/3, non-Ortiz 1 fights and has either dominated or KO'd everyone save Fury, who he has come the closest to beating.

    "Not to mention Wilder was put down for over 10 seconds against a complete nobody in Sconiers"

    Yes Wilder got knocked down by a journeyman early on in his career (his only knockdown received in 43 fights prior to Fury 2), he got up and KO'd him. He didn't get knocked down at least half a dozen times by smaller journeymen and KO'd by a 188 lbs journeyman, as Ken Norton did for example.

    "an ancient Ortiz"

    The world has moved on: fighters aren't almost automatically washed once they hit 35 these days, especially in the higher weight divisions. 35+ is often when modern heavyweights and cruisers hit their primes, though ofc it depends on a multitude of factors.

    "Usyk"

    65-35. Favourite to outpoint Wilder but Wilder's a live dog.

    "Tyson"

    Hard to say. Wilder has the bigger punch, retains his power better through the course of a fight, has absurd height and reach advantages and is mentally stronger. But Tyson would be dangerous.

    "Lewis"

    50-50. Wilder is taller, faster, more powerful with his right (which could easily spark Lewis, let's not kid ourselves) and experienced against elite big men (Lewis had no experience here prior to his final fight, so no experience as an active fighter).

    The others are not realistic picks and probably or almost certainly get starched by a Wilder right hand.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Louis, Holmes, Liston and Ali aren't realistic picks?
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think so. Louis and Liston were short, relatively slow and would be open for Wilder's bomb. Holmes (a sucker for the right hand) and Ali (no defensive wizard but a very tall and fast fighter in the 60's) would only be able to run for so long until Wilder nailed them. The best version of Wilder is the one who had 12 rounds against Fury under his belt, 33/34 years old. He's easy to underestimate too because he's happy to go rounds and not really do too much before he lands. Though he will up the pace if he's desperate late on (9th and 12th round KD's vs Fury).
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don't know how Foreman would avoid getting drilled, full force, by Wilder's right hand. Foreman marched forward with minimal head movement. He'd get taken out, probably wouldn't even finish if he went into survival mode early.
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    @swagdelfadeel isn't going to like this response...
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    Foreman was green as grass in his “prime” against Ali.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I doubt he'll even bother to reply to it given Wilder sparks Louis, Liston, Holmes and Ali. No reply necessary.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never stated otherwise did I ? I only pointed out he was green vs Peralta. But again I'm not really sure how any of these fights are relevant to a mythical match up against Wilder style wise.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He isn't worthy of a response from Swag hes a troll. I have him on ignore and I hope he gets banned on his RedBeard account like he did on his other accounts "NEETzschean" "ShortRound" an absolute bell end as us Brits would say.

    After a few days of reading his tripe on his other account "ShortRound" I made it rule to not even bother wasting my time losing braincells reading his nonsense.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Sometimes you just have to stamp the foot down mate.
     
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  11. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder is to boxing as Kimbo Slice was to mma
     
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  12. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Well there’s not much doubt Foreman was ahead as the fight would have been known for a “come from behind KO” rather than another struggle with an ageing light heavyweight that gave him a lot of problems previously. I suppose it depends who was reporting and whether they were impressed with George merely being the aggressor, whether it was Jose Torres for BI or a reporter from the Cahulawassee River Enquirer?

    What reports have you read anyway?
     
  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Various newspaper clippings of the post-fight reports.

    There isn't a lot on it, bar the syndicated AP/UPI type articles and an occasional staff columnist, as far as I can recall.

    I don't think anyone was gushing over the fight, but the sense I have of the bout is that it was a fairly no-nonsense, patient and one-sided paneling.

    I'll see if I have any such clippings stored (or whether I can source some pieces, if not).
     
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  14. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    wee foreman would be knocked out he was 6 foot 3 at the most he wasnt tall fella and he was not very mobile he was basic not intelligent coming forward thinking he was to big for others to strong he would be hit square in face its a terrible match for him wilder would just wait and smash him in the face it would be brutal we are talking about a bloke here who lost to jimmy young who was 15 stone lol
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    His post is a perfect example of the other side of the spectrum I was referring to.
    Absolute nonsense, not even worth responding to.