Prime Oleksander Usyk vs Past greats

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Sheerass is a good nickname Full Member

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    Usyk is quicker than anybody Ali fought.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really?

    Ali fought fast former LHW’s like Doug Jones when he was young, as well as facing Floyd Patterson twice.
     
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  3. Mark Anthony

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    Jones was nowhere near Usyk`s level and Patterson was smaller than Usyk and had a back injury in his first fight v Ali, by the second fight he was no longer as quick as Usyk is.
     
  4. MorvidusStyle

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    Prime Wlad - Either gasses him and gets the TKO or gets KO'd by a bomb
    Prime Vitali - Usyk points, Vitali can't hurt him, too slow, predictable one-two arm punches
    Prime Mike Tyson - Usyk points, Tyson had no engine, too small, mentally weak quitter
    Prime Muhammad Ali - Usyk TKO, Ali is simply garbage in comparison, go watch the footage and compare, zero chance of hurting Uysk at all.
    Prime George Foreman - Usyk UD, Foreman way too slow and predicatable
    Prime Joe Fraizer - LOL. Just LOL!!!!
    Prime Tyson Fury - Who knows ...
    Prime HW Evander Holyfield - Uysk is better than a guy a MW stopped
    Prime Lennox Lewis - Usyk TKO, Lewis has no chin and sloppier than Joshua
    Prime Alexander Povetkin - Tough fight, Usyk is in Povetkin's wheelhouse, maybe Usyk on points in Breidis type difficult fight if I had to bet
    Prime Clubber Lang
    Prime Deontay Wilder - Usyk points unless Wilder lands one out of nowhere ...


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    Prime Haye - Usyk gasses him and TKO, but Haye is maybe more dangerous than most in the top list due to speed and power
    Prime Johnny Nelson - LOL
    Prime CW Evander Holyfield - Usyk

    In conclusion, Usyk is better than all these old fighters.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of the worst takes I've ever seen Usyk's not even had 1 stoppage win over a ranked Heavyweight, yet hes stopping an ATG Lewis and one of the most durable Heavyweights in history in Ali amazing logic.

    Tyson no engine ? You must of missed his 12 round war vs Ruddock.

    Lewis sloppier than Joshua with no chin ? You must of missed Lewis taking bombs off of Vitali, Mercer, Bruno.

    And somehow the worst Heavyweight fighter on that list Povetkin is the toughest fight for Usyk ?

    Dear oh dear well we certainly know your not biased at all in regards to modern fighters.

    I suppose Jermall Charlo beats Marvin Hagler aswell right because hes a modern fighter ?
     
  6. Playwithmilk

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    Beats Wlad SD
    Beats Vitali UD
    Loses to Mike tyson Ko 5
    Loses to Ali by Tko 11th by domination
    Loses to George foreman ko 4
    Loses to joe fraizer by competitive but comfortable UD (similar to ali vs frazier 1)
    Beats Tyson fury by SD
    Beats Evander by UD
    Loses to Lennox by UD
    Smokes Povektin by 8th round ko
    Beats Wilder UD

    Beats Haye UD
    Beats Johnny nelson UD
    Beats Evander by close MD
     
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  7. ellerbe

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    My guy said beats a prime Mike
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    It's like people have no logic what so ever, Tyson is one of the best pressure fighters of all time with a superb body attack.

    Usyk has shown vulnerabilities to body punches, and struggled with the likes of Chisora, Breidis, pressure.

    I don't see how logically Usyk should be favoured over Tyson, hes light hitting boxer with no clinch game. An ATG pressure fighter like Tyson is bad match up for him.
     
  9. ellerbe

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    Usyk went life and death against a 40 something year old Chisora but he bests a prime Mike lol.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    Ha!

    So you’re going to move the goal posts now.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This looks as though it was copied and pasted from Redbeard.

    Nobody is going to take this seriously.

    It’s a joke.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He can only have been trolling.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

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    I agree Usyk would beat the overwhelming majority and perhaps all of them more often than not but I can't see Usyk stopping many. He didn't drop or stop Chisora or Joshua over two fights, didn't drop or stop Glowacki, Briedis or Gassiev. Bellew was the quickest stoppage among his notable opponents and he got to the 8th. So I don't see stoppages over Wlad and Lewis, who were defensive enough to get through fights where they didn't either punch themselves out or get nailed. There's a good chance that Foreman and the 70's heavyweights would be too outclassed by Usyk, would gas out and get stopped. But I even think Haye would go the distance because he'd be so terrified of being stopped after gassing that he'd go into survival mode and lose a wide UD.
     
  14. dawnofthedead

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    Emmanuel Steward stated Lennox Lewis was a more versatile fighter than Wladimir Klitschko.
     
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  15. lepinthehood

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    He was without a doubt, but i think Klitchko molded a style with his jab and strength that was very effective. He just had zero inside game when it mattered. Lewis is seen as a h2h top 3 imo and Klitchko isnt far from it. Hed play with alot of dangerous fighters raated on esb.
     
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