Why did Evander Holyfield have a better heavyweight career in heavyweight

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  1. drronnie

    drronnie Member Full Member

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    Despite being a blown up light heavyweight as Michael Spinks, When Spinks was demolished by Tyson people were saying he was too light to be a heavyweight yet Holyfield
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Steroids Holyfield bulked up obviously plus Spinks had bad knees and was coming towards the end of his career.
     
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  3. Jon1962

    Jon1962 Member Full Member

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    Probably easier since he was coming up from Cruiserweight. Where's Spinks was coming up from Light Heavyweight.
     
  4. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Look at his first reign. 2 grandfathers and a near knockout loss. If Bowe took things more seriously and fought Lewis then as long as Bowe/Lewis stayed unified Holyfield wouldn’t have got a look in at any of the major belts to become a so called 4 times heavyweight champion.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This says it all really.
     
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  6. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield. Ben Johnson. Boxer. Sprinter. Both cheating *******s. Johnson had no choice. Holyfield did. Worst is Holyfield’s God this God that after Tyson 1. Even Pacheco got sick of it. First class horrible *******. Now he’s living off his ear ****. Never rated him. Right place right time. And from the good old USofA. Helps doesn’t it?
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Spinks still became champion and wasn't a one n done like RJJ and tbf no one seriously ranks him at hvy. I think ppl r too harsh on him in regards to Tyson. No version of Spinks was beating peak Tyson that night bad knees or not.
     
  8. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Don’t forget Michael Spinks in Gold as a Middleweight. Difference from when Patterson won it is that the heavyweight division was a lot bigger.
     
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  9. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Yes Holy was a cheat but ppl have an inflated imagery of roids too. They still won't give u talent or will to persevere which Holy had plenty of both. He had to in order to beat Bowe n Tyson. Again, not excusing cheating but Glass Joe aint becoming Ali by using roids is what I'm getting at.
     
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  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Yes the size differences becoming bigger and the creation of the cruiserweight division do play a factor. Some go as far as to not even consider Patterson a hvy which is wild to me. He didn't decide when to b born its not his fault hvys were smaller in his time I still credit him for becoming a heavyweight champion when he did.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    And even WITH steroids, a lot of the men he was fighting were STILL bigger and stronger.
     
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  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I wouldn't b surprised if some were on roids themselves. Holy is just one of the few that got caught.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah I think by the nineties it was common. Of course I have no proof
     
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  14. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Why the hell would for example,Bowe and Lewis take steroids? Holyfield is a cheating piece of crap. Always chasing and copying. God this God that. The Holyfield grill.
     
  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Later, Michael Moorer rose from the Light Heavyweight division, and defeated Holyfield and became the champion, and no one accused him of using anabolic steroids.
    I'm not defending Holyfield, I just think that out of the top 10 heavyweights, 9 take anabolic steroids.
     
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