(PRIME) Oleksandr Usyk vs. (PRIME) Deontay Wilder

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(PRIME) Oleksandr Usyk vs. (PRIME) Deontay Wilder

Poll closed Aug 3, 2023.
  1. (PRIME) Oleksandr Usyk

    73.8%
  2. (PRIME) Deontay Wilder

    26.2%
  1. BM237

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    Fury fans are bigger wilder fans than the actual wilder fans.
     
  2. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't forget that time Usyk sized Haye also embarrassed him. That's sparring but still, he's so easy to counter.

    I also think that people here are underestimating the ability of Usyk to hurt Wilder.
    Wilder would miss and then be turned and confused. There would be punches coming at him from all angles.

    I'd favor Usyk because 1 dimensional power can only get you so far against a superior complete boxer.

    I still can't wait to see this fight, as Wilder would come in light and it would be a fair matchup where he's not outweighed by 50lbs, and he also could catch Usyk with a few rights to test that chin. I hate that they are both wasting time instead of fighting.

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  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sure we will eventually get that fight. And one thing you can't take away from Wilder is his big fights are exciting as he doesn't get phased by adversity - he will keep trying to land his Plan-A over and over until the end.

    Even if the fight happens in 2024/2025 after Usyk has done his run of Dubois, Hrgovic, Zhang/Joyce, I think it is still a great fight. If/When undisputed with Fury happens (win or lose), Usyk might well want to still take on Wilder. I'm pretty confident Wilder would wait for that fight too.

    Unfortunately, things are looking like the gentle come down of the early 2000s with Lewis clearing up his obligations, but without us getting the Undisputed fight in '99. With the fans eventually getting to see him v Tyson fight, 8 years too late. And like Lewis, Usyk might well take a loss before we get there.
     
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  4. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Apparently, all the anti-Fury *orons care, which makes you reply in such a stupid way. You don't even know what a glass jaw is. And no - I never said, because I don't think it, that Wilder is the hardest puncher ever, he is just a very hard puncher. And by the way, Usyk has a "glass" body.
     
  5. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    And telegraphed is no overstatement, mate.

    Wilder would begin to pull his right arm back, Usyk would spot it instantly, Usyk would then return to his corner and have a flask of coffee and a sandwich, sign a few autographs and still return to the action in time to duck the punch and land a 3 Punch combo...






    OK, I exaggerated a tad there.




    It wouldn't have been a 3 Punch combo, just a straight, one-two....


    ;)
     
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  6. J_metal

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    Usyk will have wilder seeing double or even triple have his head spun into a dizzy spin of frustration good luck catchn n puttin dwn usyk for the long hall cuz it aint gonna happen
     
  7. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Took Wilder 9 rounds to KO Szpilka who is 10 levels below Usyk.

    It goes two ways, 90% chance of a 120-108 or a late TKO for Usyk

    10% chance Usyk gets KTFO
     
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  8. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stiverne went 12 rounds, Molina 9, Duhaupas 11, Szpillka 9 and the Breast man himself Arreola went 8 and yet people think Usyk would be incapable of lasting only a couple of rounds more than these guys?
     
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  9. BM237

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    dropped 7-8 times in his career and will prob get dropped more if he continues to fight, that’s a glass jawed boxer. Now can you enlighten me about Usyk’s glass body?
     
  10. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Usyk was dropped from body shots by cruiserweights. By your logic, that is a "glass" body. But again: your capabilities go that far to consider a glass-jawed someone who's been knocked down - a glass jaw is a man who easily gets knocked out, you f**l! What does it matter if one was knocked down, but never lost a fight? Marciano was knocked down - he never lost. Vitali has never been knocked out, but has two losses.
     
  11. BM237

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    Usyk has been dropped from body shots by cruiserweights ?? Why don’t you specify who are those cruisers and how many times was he dropped? :D:D:D
    If any boxer has suffered as many knockdowns as Fury he is packing glass.
     
  12. MAD_PIGE0N

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    You are the expert, you should know it, as well as being capable of understanding what a glass jaw is. Now tell me the significance of scoring a knockdown when you lose, i.e. does it matter that a fighter has been knocked down when he is undefeated?
     
  13. BM237

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    yes it does matter how many knockdows fighter has suffered despite being undefeated , because that is a very good indicator of how well he takes punches.

    In your words “ usyk has glass body , because he was dropped from body shots by cruiserweights” .
    So I am asking you again who are those cruiserweights that dropped usyk??
    Waiting for your reply
     
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  14. MAD_PIGE0N

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    The knockdowns are there, you expert of wrong understandings. I won't go any further with your foolishness untill you explain me how can a man who takes punches badly keeps being undefeated.

    @Boxingiq2020 what is the point of closing the poll on such a thread?
     
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  15. BM237

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    The knockdows are there :D:D:D, so why don’t you name them ?
    keeps being undefeated :D:D??
    because he fought no one and when he did he got dropped , or popped for being on juice. He is a glass jawed duck.
    Once again waiting for you to name those cruiserweights that dropped Usyk .