Has Canelo Had Most Consistently Bad Scorecards In Championship Fights Of Any Fighter In History ?

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not trying to sound like a Canelo hater BTW, and some of his controversial fights are debatable. But i was discussing this with someone today, and honestly in recent memory i can't remember a fighter having so many consistently bad scorecards in championship fights.

    118-110 vs Golovkin 1
    114-114 vs Mayweather
    115-113 vs Bivol
    117-111 vs Lara
    118-109 vs Trout
    49-46 vs Khan

    I mean these are just outrageous scorecards in all honesty.
     
  2. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    You forgot 119-109 and 118-110 Cotto, 78-74 x2 BJS, 120-107 Ryder...
     
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    In the last 10 years or so, he's definitely had the most B.S. scorecards. Canelo's career is a highlight reel of judge corruption.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Don't forget....

    78-74x2 against Saunders.
    96-94x2 against Kovalev.

    Both matches he should have been losing at the time of the stoppages.
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :risas3:
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Yes I the most obvious thing is they are ALL favoring Canelo. He has NEVER had one judges card AGAINST him GGG x2 117-111 for Lara 118-109 for Trout 49-46 for Canelo over Khan & the ludicrous 114-114 for Canelo against Floyd The only judge reprimanded then fired was the 114-114 draw by CJ ROSS but that wasn't the worst one by far. Too score Canelo/Bivol 115-113 when Canelo never won a round ???
    There are 5 losses that could & should have gone against Canelo HOW!!!!!!!!WHY!!!!!!
     
  7. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Denero!! He's got the best resume in boxing though.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This topic is for noobs. People complaining about several controversial cards are forgetting how many times he's fought fighters who are difficult to win rounds against. Canelo has more championship fights against quality opposition than anyone in the sport by a mile. The more championship fights your in, the more potential for controversial scores. Canelo has taken on more stylistically difficult opponents throughout his career than anyone else in boxing has.

    If you never challenge yourself, if you don't take tough fights, as Canelo has, then the possibility of controversial scores don't exist. People disagree with these scores mainly because they count punches and refuse to recognize how difficult it is to score against Canelo, because he rarely gets hit clean, lands harder punches, scores to the body, and employs high level ring generalship.
     
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  9. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Makes Floyd and Bivol's wins even more impressive, given they were facing 4 opponents at the same time: Canelo and the 3 judges
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You laugh but where's your rebuttal ? we know your a big Canelo fan that's fine. But whether you like a fighter or not those scorecards are inexcusable end of no matter what fighter it is.

    Name me another fighter in recent years that's had scorecards as outrageous as that consistently ?
     
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  11. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Debatable personally I feel like that’s why he get so much hate.. if Canelo-Lara was scored 7-5/7-5/5-7 SD for Canelo or Canelo-GGG I was scored 7-5/5-7/6-6 draw instead of having that one wide card nobody would complain and would just give him credit for winning close competitive fights.. because he gets that one. Crazy card tho it makes ppl react drastically in the other direction.
     
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes we know controversial fights happen but consistent outrageous scorecards in Canelo fights isn't excusable.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its the fact it happens consistently though which rightly annoys fans, i mean you get the odd outrageous scorecard in fights. But it happens alot in Canelo fights specifically.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't happen consistently at all. It's because he's had a long list of championship fights and only in a fraction of those fights has their been controversial scoring. If you look at the number of championship fights he's been in vs the number of contentious cards it's not anything out of the ordinary. It's only because you're ignoring the sheer number of championship fights he's been in and the amount of stylistically difficult opponents he's faced in those fights.

    It's not unsual for judges to be in disagreement in close fights between two fighters who are hard to win rounds against. Everyone you listed there are good fighters who are hard to win rounds against. When you have a fighter who is good at winning rounds consistently fighting fighters who are good at winning rounds you force judges to make difficult decisions in close rounds which produce cards that can be interpreted in various ways. In all the fights you listed, there were very few rounds in any of those fights (aside from Bivol) where Canelo's opponents clearly won many rounds. Most of the rounds in question were very even, hard to score, and it was splitting hairs to decide who won. That's why some judges decided to score them for Canelo, while other judges scored them to his opponent. Because they were *gasp* hard to score. That's what happens in boxing when the best fight the best and it goes the distance. And anyone who doesn't get this, anyone who doesn't understand how such a thing can happen in boxing when you have two great fighters fighting tit for tat round after round are clearly new to boxing and don't get how professional scoring works.
     
  15. Johnny1987

    Johnny1987 Active Member Full Member

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    Stop it bro
     
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