Has Canelo Had Most Consistently Bad Scorecards In Championship Fights Of Any Fighter In History ?

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nobody was robbed kirk!! Canelo beat all them dudes. :deal:

    He couldn't beat Bivol or Mayweather though. He gave them too many weight advantages but he was daring to be great. Canelo is undefeated at his normal weight. :deal:

    No one has ever beaten Canelo without the aid of significant weight advantages.:clap2:Canelo sacrified himself time and time again to make big fights and chase greatness.:clap:
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

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    Shadow it's posts like this where you lose credibility, it's one thing being a fan of a fighter which is entirely up to you who you support. But it's another to make up a false narrative and a fantasy scenario that just didn't happen.

    There is no case for Canelo winning 6 or 7 rounds vs Mayweather that is a fantasy conjured up by you that no one agrees with. And you trying to bring up the 114-114 card in a dishonest way to make it look more competitive is again a biased view on your part. The judge as i said in question is C.J Ross who is widely criticised for her horrendous scorecards, and her scoring the fight 114-114 is certainly not winning you that debate.

    In what way was it competitive ? Mayweather landed over double the amount of punches, landed at over double the connect rate of Canelo. Mayweather pot shotted and outboxed Canelo clearly.

    It's not like i'm some big Mayweather fan i'm not even a fan of his BTW, and i think he lost to Castillo the 1st time so it's not like i'm scoring it in a biased manner for him. Mayweather is like marmite some people love him or hate him, so it's not the like people were scoring it for Mayweather out of their love for him. People simply scored it wide and convincingly for Mayweather because that's what happened in the fight.

    As for Mayweather's comments ? well recently Mayweather said "beating Canelo was easy and i was old when i did it" his words not mine.

    I disagree and my comments above covered all this, it seems like your making this narrative up because you don't like the fact mostly everyone scored it wide for Mayweather.

    I don't think it was one sided for Canelo, Golovkin cameback in the later rounds and made it competitive. But i have no problem with Canelo winning by a few rounds.

    I thought Canelo was infront at the time of the stoppage i didn't think Plant's punches were that effective or hard enough overall.

    So if you look at my last few posts you'll see i don't biasedly view Canelo's fights i call it as i see it, my problem with you Shadow is not you being a Canelo fan. It's that some of your opinions on Canelo's fights are totally from left field.

    My issue with Canelo is that he's the only fighter that gets these outrageous scorecards on a consistent basis, and he gets the benefit of the doubt in every single fight which is just unfair IMO.
     
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  3. shadow111

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    Yeah he changed his tune years later to feed his own fragile ego. What he said after the fight happened and the pain he was in make it very clear what happened and how competitive it was.
     
  4. shadow111

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    Most fans saw it as very one-sided. So now you agree with the "corrupt" judges. Funny how that works.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

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    I never brought up Golovkin vs Canelo 3 in any of my examples though ? i would say most had Canelo winning but not one sided. And this fight was way more competitive than Mayweather vs Canelo so that's not really a good example.
     
  6. shadow111

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    Of course you didn't, you cherry picked examples. No, Mayweather vs Canelo was way more competitive than Canelo GGG 3. GGG did next to nothing for the first 8 rounds. Against Mayweather Canelo came to fight and made an exciting fight. Last September, GGG was very disappointing and was dominated. Horrible comparison.

    And no, the fans disagreed with you. The fans overwhelmingly saw it as a one-sided Canelo domination. You're in the minority on this one bud, on this one you agree with your "corrupt" judges. :facepalm::facepalm:
     
  7. BCS8

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    That's Canelo's own fault. Let's assume he has nothing to do with the inexplicable love that boxing judges have for him. He didn't have to go out of his way to play games with rehydration clauses, catchweights, stacked wraps, short camps etc. And it's a pity because he's made some good fights at much higher weights than he started out at. People should love him but there's always that underlying bad taste to throw us off.
     
  8. BCS8

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    lol
     
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    That just about sums up this thread.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    Yeah case closed. The GGG hype machine still desperately trying to spin GGG's stinker last September into "competitive". :risas3:

    Pathetic. Bunch of GGG spin doctors round here. :deal:
     
  11. BCS8

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    Meanwhile gingerolo-ball-shadow-dweller is trying to reimagine clenelo/ mayweather as "way more competitive" than a fight that ended with clenelo on the backfoot and getting pounded. OK champ
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    Cherry picked ? i wouldn't say over half a dozen fights is cherry picking my guy, especially when some of them are very competitive fights that Canelo had strong arguments to losing, and judges scored it very one sidedly in his favour. And even had the audacity to score Mayweather vs Canelo a draw in a fight he got completely befuddled and outboxed in.

    One sided Canelo domination ? have a day off Shadow. Golovkin fought a very passive fight in the 8 rounds, and then Canelo gassed and lost a majority of the rounds from that point on that isn't a "domination" my guy.

    As for Mayweather vs Canelo being more competitive than Canelo vs Golovkin 3 ? well that outrageous comment just speaks for itself doesn't it.
     
  13. shadow111

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    Well to that point, you could argue GGG did marginally better in the last 4 rounds against Canelo last Sept than Canelo did against Mayweather. But if we're comparing the first 6 rounds, Canelo did way better against Mayweather in the first half of the fight than GGG did against Canelo last September "by a mile"

    So in totality, yes Canelo Mayweather was far more competitive. GGG (perhaps) doing marginally better in the last 4 rounds than Canelo did against Mayweather doesn't make up for the GGG nothing burger over the first 8 rounds vs the evenly contested first 6 of Canelo Mayweather.
     
  14. BCS8

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    That of course is your opinion. iirc GGG won the first round and arguably one of the others.
     
  15. shadow111

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    Canelo did way better against Mayweather over the first 6 than GGG did in Canelo 3 and that's not even debatable.