Wladimir Klitscko ducked Dereck Chisora

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah sure. That was prime Wlad right there, who Haye couldn’t land lay a glove on him. And that was prime Haye as well. Same Haye in his very next match literally obliterates Chisora.
    Boxing doesn't work like that, but Don Charles was talking some next level b. s.
    Just like he say that prime Chisora would have beaten Usyk.
     
  2. BCS8

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    :risas3::risas3:
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It all sounds correct.

    They (Wlad and Chisora) were signed to fight. Wladimir did pull out ... TWICE. First time he claimed an injury. Second time he just said his injury wasn't healed enough. Instead of rescheduling with Chisora, Wlad did fight Haye. "Flash forward" ... Vitali did defend against Chisora. (Chisora famously spit water in Wlad's face in the ring before the bell.) And Wlad just stood there. It was the toughest defense of Vitali's career

    Just like he said.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/dec/09/wladimir-klitschko-dereck-chisora-david-haye
    https://www.badlefthook.com/2011/3/5/2031692/wladimir-klitschko-cancels-fight-with-dereck-chisora

    The Klitschkos often liked to tag team against some guys, trying to intimidate them before fights, sending one brother or the other into the opponent's dressing room to watch his hands getting wrapped and smacktalking the guy during the wrapping process, standing side by side next to each other like you had to get through both. Chisora was the first guy who seemed eager to take them both on.

    Essentially, they were a tag team. Together they controlled the division. And if one guy didn't think he could get past someone, the other guy stood in for him.

    Their reputations are kind of entwined. Neither probably would've been as successful without the other. Vitali would've had to rematch Byrd. Wlad would've had to fight Corrie Sanders again.

    Just because Vitali beat Chisora doesn't mean Wlad would've.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Chisora couldn't be intimidated just like Fury. It didn't go down well with the Klits. They pushed the iron chinned brother in the ring to clinch and jab him to death over Wlad.

    Too late anyway Fury had already dealt with delboy by then.

    Then Fury dealt with Wlad in easy fashion. Vitali looking like a shell in the lockerroom failing to intimidate Fury who was all fun and games. Another fight they probably wanted out of...they tried to cheat to high hell and failed.

    If Fury did end up fighting on that 5 inch thick canvas, yes he wouldn't have been able to move but guess what Fury who comes to wrestle and brawl would destroy Wlad even better.
     
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  5. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    vladimir got turned inside out by corrie sanders lamon brewster ross purity
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    I didn't even know ducking Chisora was a thing.
     
  7. Terror

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    Who has Chisora ever beaten to indicate he would do anything besides get melted by Wlad? Wlad is a bigger puncher, a better fighter, and has every attribute above Chisora except the ability to take a beating. Chisora is not a devastating puncher either. Ducked Chisora to fight Povetkin, Haye? Better fighters. Chisora wouldn't have nabbed a title during the Rahman, Peter, Maskaev, Ruiz times. He was not a class heavy and that's just the facts. He talks his way into fights, and would probably love to be the first cash out lamb to slaughter if Wlad would return. That's all this is.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    Once upon a time, Chisora was a hot prospect who was treated similarly and showcased on the same pro cards as Britain's top Olympic prospects.

    It's true.
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

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    The only thing I remember about Chisora's early career was him beating a totally shot Danny Williams.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    Going in to their fights with him, who had anyone who knocked off Wlad ever beaten to indicate they would've done anything other than get melted by Wlad?

    Seriously?

    Hell, Emanuel Steward literally had to scream at Wlad in the corner during the final rounds to open up against Eddie Chambers that year. Wlad was sorta gunshy back then. That should've been an easy, early blowout. Chambers offered nothing in return against Wlad, and still Wlad was hesitant to do much more than jab.

    The truth is, Wlad signed to fight Chisora. And then Wlad backed out twice. It happened. Just like the trainer said.

    Vitali did the same thing to Hasim Rahman. People laugh now that Vitali would've been concerned about a Rahman fight, but Vitali called that fight off over and over and over again. And never fought him.

    The Klitschkos individually were kinda picky about who they fought. If the trainer said Steward told him he didn't like the matchup, that sounds correct. Steward, when commenting for HBO, often talked about how he didn't like certain matchups for his fighters.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    Let's put it this way, Robert Helenius and Chisora were two of the hottest rising contenders in the game back then.

    Chisora was actually favored to beat Tyson Fury the first time they fought. Chisora was considered a better fighter and a better prospect.
     
  12. Wig

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    He’s selling the fight.
     
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  13. drenlou

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    Wlad would have whooped Chisora. LOL
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    That's because Fury had gotten a gift vs McDermott, and was known as the meme boxer who punched himself. It's not until he beat Wladimir that I think the public started to respect his skills.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    Someone has to.

    Dubois and Usyk are terrible at this. Really bad.

    Is Usyk even saying anything remotely interesting in his own language?
     
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