Defense is the most important thing in scoring boxing, what is the second ?

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hit comes before not get hit. That is the purpose of boxing. Hitting is more important than defense. If you hit hard enough the fight ends early and you go home. No amount of defense is going to have the fight ending early (and I love defensive fighters)
     
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  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Last I checked hitting the opponent is the most important aspect in scoring a fight. It's a matter of how in control a fighter is, how clean and accurrate their punches are, who's doing more work in the round, and who's landed the most punches. Of course ring generalship and effective aggression comes with it as well.

    Offense will always be the most important thing in scoring a fight period.
     
  3. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    most people here use selective jusitifactrion, they pick a fighter they really want to win for whatever reason and bend over backwards to explain why they won the round.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    In pro boxing the most important scoring criteria is damage given. The fighter who hurts the other fighter wins the round. It's pro boxing, not ice skating. It's about hurting the other man.
     
  5. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    What do you mean defense? Slipping shots? Landing punches is how you score points in boxing, ring genralship is important too.
     
  6. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You would think so right!? but judging by the past two decades you would think otherwise haha.
     
  7. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can throw the rule book in the bin. Judges will tell you themselves 80% of judging is counting clean shots.

    Then Effective aggression/Ring generalship. Defence is redundant in scoring. You can't win a round on defence alone.
     
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  8. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, keyword Hurting not pity patting, grazing gloves, arms, headlocking avoiding while skipping, this i what the experts will never understand which is the force & damage of those shots compared to the others,

    Anyone operating a ticking button can call themselves "CompuBox" while trying to convince the watching public that fighter a & fighter b both landed a number of power shots by their choosing when in reality it is complete BS,

    A good example was the fight i just watched the other day of Pacquaio vs Ugas: Where Manny punched Uga's face three times with his jab & clearly connected flush the CompuBox number stayed at 42 without moving, they didn't even count one punch for Pacquiao, but a few seconds after Uga's went to his attack where they didn't even land clearly & only grazed Pacquiao only for CompuBox to add three punches to Ugas number count & they say there is no corruption to see here.
     
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  9. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tell that to the present judges who score & hold defense to a higher point than the latter.
     
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  10. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    You don't get points for avoiding a punch, but you avoid losing points. If a boxer avoids 1000 punches in a round, but gets jabbed once, without throwing a punch the entire round, they lose the round.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't agree that defense is the most important factor.

    Clean punching is the most important factor. Sometimes, ONE clean punch can win a round.

    One great defensive move won't win you a round if you haven't landed anything yourself.

    Fights can end with one punch. Fights don't end with one great defensive move ... that move usually has to be accompanied by some punching.
     
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  12. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not to dispute what you're sayin, please I invite you, provide a couple examples of this (specific fights)
     
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    A bald head
     
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  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    so canelo was doing better but was he outlanding lara or winning more rounds is the question.
     
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The forums prodigal son makes a surprise re appearance LOL. I suppose he thinks Floyd's running & holding
    was great defence lol. I never saw Floyd exhibit Ring Generalship from the time he was at 135. I can NEVER remember him showing the slightest Effective Aggression except when he cowardly cold cocked Victor Ortiz even then he couldn't knock him out lol
    Welcome back M.V.C