Team Fulton Concerned With How Naoya Inoue’s Hands Wrapped, Could Pull Out Source: Team Fulton Con

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  1. elmaldito

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    true story
     
  2. elmaldito

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    i think the monster aint doing **** but if he kos fulton ill give he and cts80 props. I know hes shaking his head if he reads this.
     
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  3. JOKER

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    Stitch Duran just ethered Team Female Dog.
     
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  4. drenlou

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    #NoExcuses. If he knocks out Fulton, all credit will be given on my end. I think Fulton will beat him and frustrate him.
     
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  5. elmaldito

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    cst80 ready to pounce at 430 am if were wrong hahahahahahaa
     
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  6. Young Terror

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    The rumor back then was that he was Scott Gilfoid.
     
  7. Manfred

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    For one, Fulton didn't make those claims, his trainer did. Fulton sad he didn't care what he had in his gloves. However, I am glad that he addressed his concerns and he will be there when Inoue hands are wrapped. Fulton ain't backing out of this fight in any shape, form or fashion. They are in hostile territory fighting a national hero and they are right to question everything.
     
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  8. drenlou

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    I agree with that. In a fight of this magnitude both sides need to do their job to make sure this fight is on an even playing field.
     
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  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s a ***** move by Fulton who damn well knew what his trainer would say and was 100% behind it. You got a lot of balls yapping about “ hostile territory” when the vast majority of fighters fighting in the US are foreign fighters yet I’ve never heard you yap about them having to fight in “hostile territory”.
     
  10. shadow111

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    The objection here isn't "stacking" per se, it's that tape was applied directly on the hands, rather than gauze first then tape on top of the gauze. "Stacking" can be done either way.
     
  11. shadow111

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    Understandably fans are annoyed to hear about this, because they don't want any side storylines or any complaints. Some have said stacking is illegal when it really isn't, or at least not in some states / regions, some places are stricter than others when it comes to hand wraps, and we have no clue how strict Japan is regarding handwraps and what is allowed. But this isn't just mere stacking, the complaint is that Inoue was allowed to have a large amount of tape applied directly to the hands before gauze was applied. So we need to get the bottom of that, whether that's allowed in Japan, whether other American trainers wrap hands that way and more importantly if Inoue's hands will be wrapped that way in this match.

    I don't think anyone disputes that the tape was applied directly on his hands against Donaire, since it was pretty clearly seen on film and several former fighters and trainers objected to it at the time.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Better that they brought it up now rather than on fight night, because then no one would have any clue what the problem was. At least now they know what the objection is, and there's time to address it / clarify it.

    This has the potential to be an issue though, because regardless of the decision by the commission, Fulton's trainer made it clear they're not fighting if Inoue has tape directly applied to the hand like he did against Doniare. So if this objection causes Inoue to have his hands wrapped differently than he has in the past (i.e. gauze first instead of tape) even if it's deemed to be allowed in Japan, then that's a mental victory for Fulton and his team, as a sort of passive admission that they were cheating, or at least getting away with wrapping your hands in a way that (perhaps) isn't allowed in America or other parts of the world. Then it's like "oh no wonder he's a KOing monster, it's because he's been loading his wraps". And if he either decides to (so that the fight happens) wrap his hands another way or if he's forced to (which would be damning) there's more pressure for Inoue to KO Fulton, because if he fails to then it's going to look like he wasn't able to inflict the kind of damage he was used to due to how his hands were wrapped. (whether or not that's actually true, that could be the argument)

    All I'm gonna say is that the boxing public really needs clarification on this prior to fight night or else this could become a neverending saga. And none of us want that!
     
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  13. shadow111

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    I don't think that it's stacking that's the issue, it's having tape applied directly to the skin that was the objection. The argument it would seem is that having tape applied directly to the skin (rather than gauze) would increase the amount of sweat and hardening of the wrap creating a harder impact to the opponent.

    It comes down to this : applying tape directly to the skin is either allowed or it's not. It's either allowed in Japan and isn't in America or other places, or it's allowed everywhere and isn't an issue. If it's not an issue, then Fulton's trainer will look stupid like Sanchez when he falsely accused Canelo. If that's not allowed, then Inoue's been getting away with something that's not allowed elsewhere. The interesting part of this is that Japan is known as being pretty strict about many things in their society, their culture is rooted in honor, and they wouldn't take too kindly to being told that their standards of rules have been been "lax".
     
  14. shadow111

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    He referenced Sanchez making a fool out of himself trying to claim that Canelo's wraps weren't legal. Which we all seem to agree about now, however at the time plenty of GGG fans sided with Sanchez and claimed that Canelo was getting some kind of preferential treatment about his hand wraps or were sure that Canelo was flat out cheating. It's just funny how now that their fighter is accused of something similar, everyone's sure it's BS. :lol:

    And the arguments pouring in (i.e. the comments on that video) are like "what's the problem as long as it's allowed in Japan". Which is sort of humorous because that suggests that it may not be allowed in America. And again we still hae the problem of fans reacting to "stacking" in general rather than the actual objection which was tape applied directly to the skin.

    Everyone is reacting to "stacking" correctly, Stitch, fans etc, that "it's allowed" just like it was for Canelo when Sanchez falsely claimed it was illegal. Again, despite this, at the time, GGG fans still sided with Sanchez, were sure that Canelo's wraps were illegal, etc, but again that's not even what the objection is here.

    So Stitch is talking about "gauze, tape, gauze tape" which isn't the same thing that Fulton's trainer accused Inoue of. So it's unclear at this point if Stitch is aware of what the actual objection was. He keeps saying ""gauze, tape, gauze, tape, whatever you want" "as long as the tape is lower than the knuckle". We get that, no one's saying that. We're not talking about "gauze, tape, gauze, tape" we're talking about tape being applied to the skin. That's the objection, not how much tape is applied or how much tape and gauze are "stacked" after gauze is put on first, which seems to be what Stitch is describing.
     
  15. shadow111

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    Problem is we don't know what the hand wrapping rules are in Japan. It's a big mystery at this point. They need to make it clear what they allow and then we need to understand if that's allowed elsewhere. And again, not just "stacking" in general, which apparently isn't allowed in states like NY or California (or there's limits to it there, which was why Sanchez objected to Canelo's wraps, because he was apparently used to what was allowed in California but was in Vegas) but is allowed in Nevada, or they are less strict about limiting stacking there, but specifically tape being applied directly to the skin before any gauze is applied which seems to be (from the footage) what Inoue was able to do when he fought Donaire.

    Interestingly some have claimed that it was Donaire, not Inoue, who wanted to have his hands wrapped that way, and supposedly (according to them) was why Inoue had his hands wrapped like that, because that was supposedly how Donaire did it. That sounds pretty far fetched to me, and I'm not sure where that is coming from, but that's the first I heard of that theory. :lol: