How long does Jim Braddock last vs 1988 Mike Tyson?

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  1. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

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    Braddock was as durable as they come, it wasn’t easy to KO this lad. It took prime Joe 8 rounds to get him out of there, and Louis was even put on his ass on the way!
    No, I don’t see any first round execution here, no siree.

    But Tyson is bigger and more explosive than anybody Braddock ever fought, and Mike wasn’t one to take his time…he really didn’t like hanging around in the ring did he.

    I back Tyson to say goodnight and sweet dreams to Jim no later than the fifth.
     
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  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Braddock could get out of the first round. I do think Tyson stops it in 4 rounds though.
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

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    I believe he even decked Louis before Joe ended it.
     
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  4. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I think James J. Braddock would last longer than many believe. I do not see him showing up scared, and he was one tough customer! Could he pull off an upset? No, I do not believe he could, but I do not see him folding up easily either.
     
  5. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Odds are REAL low that Braddock pulls off the upset, but it is something I will not rule out.
     
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  6. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can pigs fly ? :rolleyes:

    Tyson KO's him in 30 seconds
     
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  7. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your first instinct is correct. Tyson is no Louis, he's far superior.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Who rates him as such ?
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Actual career (not fantasy): Buster Douglas wasn’t supposed to see out the first round either, perhaps lasting only 90 seconds even…

    It was Mike who didn’t make it 12 rounds. He had his Rita Aura well and truly busted.

    I don’t believe that any pigs were sighted flying above the ring in Tokyo back in 1990…:D
     
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  10. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But that was not prime Tyson, Spinks ruin him in that epic back and forth first round lol.
     
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  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Demps - Reasonably interpreted, 23 yo Mike was def. still in his prime.

    Also, the other points being, that’s how fights can go down in reality, the real world - not in the fantasy realm - and most people were just as emphatic that Mike would drill Buster in 1/2 a round - pivoting heavily on his destruction of a terrified, blown up LH and the first round stoppage of a Carl Williams who appeared to lose interest after the KD.

    As presented on the night, the quality of Spinks’ intestinal fortitude, will to win and resistance was well down in the order of ALL opponents faced by Tyson.

    Every fighter has a backstory and reasons why they might not have been 100 % on the night - including a good number of opponents that Tyson beat himself.

    Was anyone interested in their “tales of woe”? Not at all.

    Mike’s legend was being built without concessions, his aura of invincibility ever increasing without abate.

    It was only upon Mike’s first defeat that such excuses came to the fore and received disproportionate hearing - primarily because it was Mike who lost, not the “other guy”.
     
  12. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I sure don’t. He’s in the bottom of my top 10 but people act like he was death, destroyer of worlds in his prime.
     
  13. Pedro_El_Chef

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    Douglas beating Tyson was like Poe becoming the dragon warrior.
     
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  14. Vic The Gambler

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    Yes Pug…I definitely agree with you that Mike was still in his prime during that defeat against Douglas.
    After that Douglas beating, normal service was resumed as young Tyson took out Henry Tillman in one round…the same Tillman that went 7 rounds with the then unbeaten HW rising star Holyfield. He then did the same to the exciting KO specialist Alex Stewart for goodness sake. One round! Stewart was another guy who Holyfield was forced to go more rounds with than he would have liked! 8 rounds I believe. This so called past prime Tyson blasted him out in less than 3 minutes.

    And then of course we had the ferocious Razor Ruddock…not once, but twice. The first fight was a somewhat premature stoppage win for Tyson, but the second…a fight that to this day disproves the theory that Tyson loses heart after 6/7 rounds if he hadn’t KO’d his opponent by then.

    In that second Ruddock fight, Tyson looked pretty damn good, better than he was against Tillis, Tucker and Smith way back in his 1980s glory days (!). Not his KO best obviously, but he showed great strength, fortitude, stamina and punch resistance that day.
    He threw hellacious shots, and also took hellacious shots against an extremely hard puncher, and won fairly comfortably on points in the end.

    I certainly remember at the time, a Ruddock fight was considered a big risk for the post Buster Mike. This lad Ruddock was a mighty step up from Tillman and Stewart they said. If Buster can hurt Mike like that what would Ruddock do to him yada yada yada!
    Then afterwards, Tyson was back to his best they all said. Buster was just a blip.
    There was definitely no talk about him being past his prime back then, that’s for sure.

    Yep…Mike was definitely in his prime vs Douglas judging by the 4 fights that came afterwards.
    A bad day at the office doesn’t equate to out of prime, out of form, maybe, but not out of prime.
     
  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone who knows boxing.