If it's KO5 on Saturday, who is your p4p number one?

Usyk. Cleaned out the toughest division in the sport and beat the unified HW champ. Anybody can move up 3 pounds and collect trinkets.

 

Who was so tough in that division for Usyk to beat? Tony Bellew?

Beat a bodybuilder who can't box

Tyson Fury is the best fighter on the planet. All you hypothetical donkeys DKSAB.

 

Would put Crawford at #1 with a decisive win over Spence, mainly for the claim of being the only 2 division undisputed champion in 4 belts era. It would be 1A and 1B with him and The Monster really.

Not the case for Spence though, he’s only fought in 1 division.

Usyk, one of my favourite fighters of all times, will sadly not be in the conversation because of Fury’s punk ass.

 

I may not know **** about boxing, but I know Fury ducked Usyk.

 

Damn right he did. Usyk is inactive because Fury is a coward.

And Inoue is PFP #1. Everybody else is fighting for 2nd right now.

 

Neither of them. It's not to be taken too seriously.. but imo they're weight grifters who made their names off of faded fighters like 1D Porter .. the pound for pound thing is only made such a big deal because it gives Americans a sense of superiority... they like to use it to say their fighters are the best ones in the world under a fictional scenario because in reality they lack the depth at the bigger weights. These two welterweights probably walk around well over 170lbs.. that is not my definition of pound for pound. They are more or less the size of GGG ffs.. i do think Crawford will whip his ass tho.

 

Crawford if he scores a dominant win certainly has an argument. I don't think Inoue has a win like that would be, but Inoue has done much more in recent times. Crawford has been very carefully managed at WW during which time Inoue has climbed two divisions, becoming undisputed in one of them and unified in the other. It's those five pretty lost years for Crawford that keeps him from becoming p4p nr. 1 even with a 5 rd KO of Spence.

I can understand if someone feels differently, but that's my take.

 

Lmao Fulton isn't even better than Ricky Burns.

Ya'll are delusional. You keep talking about who Crawford has fought , but who has Inoue and Usyk fought? The meat riding of Inoue is so transparent. All things equal Terrance and Errol would beat his ass easy. If Terrence beats Errol Inoue's resume wouldn't even be comparable. 4 divisions but only a 10lb difference. Terrence has moved up in more weight. There isn't an objective case based on facts you could make for Inoue being better. The only arguments you can make are unquantifiable.

 

Ricky Burns?;The same Ricky Burns that was beaten up by Gonzalez and Beltrán in his 2 fights before Crawford and was lucky (through robbery) to still be champion? That one? Ricky Burns is probably Crawford's second best win after Viktor Postol, Indongo couldn't afford to train so he tried to auction his belts off before the undisputed fight. Usyk beat prime Briedis, Huck, Glowacki, Gassiev and Joshua X2 all away from home. Inoue has iced everyone he ever fought and the adversity he faced he powered through, he's also had more world title fights than Crawford in close to half the total fights. There is no way you actually believe Crawford is more talented than Inoue. But as this is your first post I'll give you a pass.

 

Usyk had to fight a mandatory. Fury ducked him, Wilder would run away, Joyce and Zhang in rematch.

Who else? Pie boy Ruiz?

 

Again , the only arguments you are able to man are unquantifiable. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't make it true. Put the objective facts on teh table. Not bull**** you think.

1. You started your rant based on a false pretense. You said Burns lost 2 fights that he factually won. Don't care about your opinion. Stick to the facts. Burns is a 3 division champion. Fulton is not. Burns was a better win than Fulton by any objective measure there is.

2. Indongo was an undefeated unified champion. Same as Fulton. But Indongo was a bum and Fulton is a great win? How? Objectively . Never heard of him not being able to afford to train. It's another bull**** excuse you pulled out of your ass , that again can't be quantified. I am sure he was able to get the same type of training that allowed him to capture 2 belts.

3. Briedis, Huck, Glowacki, Gassiev and Joshua X2. Whothe **** are they? What makes them better than the fighters that Crawford beat? Use objective facts please. I don't care about opinions. Anthony Joshua got knocked out by Andy Ruiz. Glowacki had 3 defeats. Marco Huck had 4 defeats. And He barely beat most of these dudes. Especially Briedus. These are Euro level fighters lmao.

Ya'll switch narratives depending on who the fighter is you're talking about. Inoue and Usyk's level of opositionis no different than Crawford's. Crawford has never even had a close fight! And yes , skill for skill he is light years better than Inoue. If they were the same weight Crawford would beat his ass easy. I believe a prime Gamboa would beat Inoue's ass easily.

 

Haha banned already, what a shame.
1st off I never said he lost to Beltran and Gonzalez, i said he was beaten up by both, he never won the fight v Beltran it was a draw, so come on get facts correct before spouting. 9/10 people thought Beltran was robbed that night and should have been champion. So as Burns is a 3 weight Champ does that make him better/greater than Golovkin? Thought not.

2. Its factually known that Indongo could not afford to train and pay the 100k in sanctioning fee's hence why he dropped the IBO before the fight actually took place so he had money for sparring partners.

3. Huck Joint most Cruiserweight defenses ever also arguably beat Povetkin at HW only ever stopped by Usyk, Gassiev Undefeated top rate CW who was 12-0'd by Usyk, Briedis - Unbeaten, consensus #2 Cruiser behind Usyk, took Glowacki's 0 when he was in his prime, Joshua was the consensus #2 HW behind Fury at the time and all of these fights happened in the opponents country, and he has beaten these in half the fights Crawford has had. The reason you see them as Euro level fighters is because the US doesnt have cruiserweights, not since Steve Cunningham and Andrew Tabiti, infact your #2 Cruiser was just beaten by David Light

 

The winner of Spence vs Crawford would clearly be p4p number 1 unless Canelo beats Bivol or Beterbiev. Look, I like Inoue but the man is a midget, historically in boxing who in the blue hell cares about anything below Featherweight? The man moved up 4 pounds from an extremely weak Bantamweight division and KO'd a man with 21 fights and 8 KO's in Fulton in a just as equally weak Super Bantamweight division. Just because he was unified in a weak division I'm supposed to be impressed? Isn't "Marion Tapales" another unified champ at 122? There's 4 to 5 belts each weight class with 3 or 4 pounds separating them apart, big deal.

Both Spence and Crawford have been in the top p4p lists for more than half a decade now, both undefeated and both being part of the deepest division in boxing the Welterweight division. Unless it's a stinker or robbery, the winner would automatically be p4p number 1, there's no if ands or buts about it.