Boxing Desperately Needs a Dominant American HW champ

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Jul 28, 2023.


Page 1 of 3
  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

    37,266
    29,740
    Feb 25, 2015
    America hasn't had much of a grip on HW boxing since the 1990s. Smaller men can only do so much to carry the sport and bring the casual eyeballs to the screen. Guys who love boxing like us will watch the sport no matter what. We love it and aren't going anywhere. But casuals ain't watching anything below 140 pounds. Hell, many hardcores don't even want to watch fights below 126. For whatever reason, many people do not want to watch tiny men fight.

    I've noticed that nobody I know cares about Inoue Fulton. Or Crawford Spence. Fury fighting Wilder was a pretty big deal, even with the casuals. I would turn on my TV and boxing was actually getting mainstream coverage. Not a whole lot of coverage when Usyk fought Joshua. Why? Because American boxing is all about American heavyweights. Always has been. Always will be.

    All I see is boxing retreating further and further away from the public conscience. Not sure anything other than an American HW can bring it back.

    Thing is Crawford Spence is tomorrow and nobody freaking cares. No ones cares here in America! That's disappointing to me.
     
    tinman, Jul 28, 2023
    tinman, Jul 28, 2023
    #1
  2. Cage

    Cage Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,738
    1,982
    Jan 4, 2005
    among the people i know, combat sports in general has been fading in popularity. A lot of my friends would never miss a night of boxing or MMA. . . now, most barely even keep up with it. And a lot of my buddies don't even tune into the fights regularly, they just catch the highlights and fight results afterwards
     
    Cage, Jul 28, 2023
    Cage, Jul 28, 2023
    #2
    tinman likes this.
  3. Scotty Cork

    Scotty Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,371
    3,515
    Jul 12, 2023
    American heavyweight boxing is dead. Eastern Europe will dominate for years to come
     
    Scotty Cork, Jul 28, 2023
    Scotty Cork, Jul 28, 2023
    #3
    PFPIsAMyth, rawjones, Decker and 5 others like this.
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,150
    19,341
    Oct 4, 2016
    I have to agree, I think Wilder is too old, and too rich to regain a title and a fight with Usyk can't get made with Fury in retirement. I suppose Jared Anderson is a possibility but I need to see some improvement especially on defense. I'd like to see more head movement and keeping his chin tucked in a little more.
     
    Reinhardt, Jul 28, 2023
    Reinhardt, Jul 28, 2023
    #4
    tinman likes this.
  5. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

    896
    1,487
    Jan 14, 2023
    well you don’t seem to be trying very hard to produce one…
     
    smoking mirrors, Jul 28, 2023
    smoking mirrors, Jul 28, 2023
    #5
    testez likes this.
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,753
    18,639
    Jun 25, 2014
    So we can look forward to all the heavyweight title fights taking place in Bucharest, Minsk, Kiev and Moscow?

    I guess they'd all better be prepared to take a pay cut.
     
    Dubblechin, Jul 28, 2023
    Dubblechin, Jul 28, 2023
    #6
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    48,059
    28,029
    Oct 23, 2011
    You have one named Deontay Wilder, a man with an unstoppable force.

    but even he couldn't overcome the immoveable object of Tyson Fury.
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2023
    miniq, Jul 28, 2023
    miniq, Jul 28, 2023
    #7
  8. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

    6,414
    5,555
    Aug 10, 2015
    Torrez is probably the best American heavyweight prospect right now... That speaks volumes
     
    deyell, Jul 28, 2023
    deyell, Jul 28, 2023
    #8
  9. Scotty Cork

    Scotty Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,371
    3,515
    Jul 12, 2023
    I think theyll fight in America now and again like the Klitsckhos did
     
    Scotty Cork, Jul 28, 2023
    Scotty Cork, Jul 28, 2023
    #9
  10. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,561
    1,677
    Dec 7, 2015
    Agreed but nobody wants to put the work in, they rather sit on the bench in the NFL making $200,000 a year
     
    cleglue1, Jul 28, 2023
    cleglue1, Jul 28, 2023
    #10
    tinman likes this.
  11. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

    1,069
    1,157
    Feb 21, 2021
    It would definitely help with boxings popularity, but this has been an issue for like quarter of a century now and the sport is still surviving okay. Something always comes along eventually to capture peoples interest, as we see with this weekend, or Tank/Garcia, or Canelo/GGG, or Fury/Wilder etc etc.
     
    TMLT87, Jul 28, 2023
    TMLT87, Jul 28, 2023
    #11
  12. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,188
    6,889
    May 18, 2021
    Boxing don't need anything from US, as well as the world
     
    senpai, Jul 28, 2023
    senpai, Jul 28, 2023
    #12
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,357
    48,723
    Mar 21, 2007
    America might need one, in your opinion.

    The rest of us are doing just fine without one.

    Boxing remains stadium-filling in the UK regardless of who is doing what in the USA.
     
    McGrain, Jul 28, 2023
    McGrain, Jul 28, 2023
    #13
    MAD_PIGE0N likes this.
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

    37,266
    29,740
    Feb 25, 2015
    America remains by far the most economically viable venue for pro boxing. Compare the net worth of Klitschko, Fury and AJ compared to what Tyson and Holyfield were able to amass in the 90s. Adjusted for inflation the Americans made far more money.
     
    tinman, Jul 28, 2023
    tinman, Jul 28, 2023
    #14
    Hotep Kemba likes this.
  15. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,188
    6,889
    May 18, 2021
    Why Wilder was unknown before Fury fight ? They did not pay him like other HW champions from other countries
     
    senpai, Jul 28, 2023
    senpai, Jul 28, 2023
    #15
Page 1 of 3