Name a higher calibre boxing match than Spence vs Crawford

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Kovalev vs Ward
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, we were proven right by what we just seen in the ring. A total mismatch. Canelo GGG 1 and 2 were contested on a much higher level than that and were much more evenly matched in terms of skill. Now, granted, Bud Crawford just put in an ATG performance and he made it look easy. But this wasn't a comparison of which individual fighter is more skilled, you could make the argument that Bud is on par or even more skilled than Canelo or GGG was. But this topic was about as a boxing match, meaning both combatants making it a higher caliber fight. That idea has been blown to smithereens given the poor performance by Spence. And we could see the writing on the wall, Spence has been slurring his words in the build up. You looked into his eyes as he stepped into the ring, he has that glazed over look in his eyes. Spence is a solid fighter but he's not P4P. He's not up there with guys like Inoue, Bud, Canelo, Bivol, etc. The fact that Spence was that high P4P looks crazy now. Hindsight 20/20 but all Spence really has is work rate and speed, his defense is subpar and it showed tonight, he was target practice against Bud. Against lesser fighters he just overwhelms fighters and wins round after round. But his normal stuff just didn't work against Bud because Bud is at a much higher level and his counters were devastating.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It was very one-sided. So there have been many. But for individual performances? That was legitimately there or thereabouts.
     
  4. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    crawford is just a diff class fighter then any of those names. Like i said before, he can do it all. Hes the most well rounded fighter of my day. I was born in 80. The only thing i didnt predict was how easy hed tie up errol on the inside. He handled him like a child. I knew crawford was the better more skilled inside fighter but errol had know idea what to do with a simple tie up. Canelo and ggg are just boring fighters period. That **** was a glorified sparring match. Crawford was in there to hurt spence while ggg didnt throw a meaningful shot that whole fight. Thats the diff.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Individually, yes, but not as a high caliber boxing match which involves both combatants. Clearly Canelo GGG 1 and Ward Kovalev 1 were fought at a much higher level than that.
     
  7. Renaissance_man

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    Right know I feel that Plant vs Charlo would sell more PPV buys than Mayweather and Pac-Man.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo's skill had a lot to do with why GGG didn't throw a meaningful shot. Canelo was too slippery for GGG to throw meaningful shots. He was chasing Canelo all night and could barely land a glove on him. Meanwhile, Canelo threw and landed a ton of meaningful shots on GGG. This is why I had Canelo winning that first match by the way. Because, like you said, GGG didn't throw (let alone land) anything meaningful on Canelo. But Canelo tagged him multiple times with big shots. And not only that but he made GGG look silly with high level defense. As far as Bud in there to hurt Spence, no doubt about that. He PUNISHED Spence. But was Bud's defense that great? Spence actually landed a lot of clean shots on Bud, but few had any impact or bothered Bud at all. Spence even landed a clean left hook right before the 2nd knock down. But Spence had no power behind his shots and Bud just shook it off.

    If we're talking about which is the higher caliber boxing match, it's no comparison. There was nothing boring about Canelo or GGG. They both produced a much more competitive, high intensity and edge of your seat fight than what we saw from Bud and Spence. You cannot put a one-sided ass kicking like that over a highly competitive edge of your seat battle like Canelo GGG, or Kovalev Ward for that matter. Bud is on the level of those guys though, but Spence, definitely not. You need two great fighters to make a great fight. Last night we only had 1.
     
  9. DavHQ

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    Canelo vs GGG
     
  10. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    crawford is in a diff class then every fighter mentioned period.
     
  11. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    ya id say his defense was great. Got hit what 3 clean shots. Crawford takes alot of risks. He coulda been more patient. Used his jabs and broke him down more to the body. But like i said, crawford was feeling what spence had and prob knew he couldnt hurt him so he took more risks. I said crawford was the real bodysnatcher between the two. I said crawford would be stronger and if anybody wore anybody down itd be crawford wearing down spence. Not to many suprises tonight. I said balance was gonna be the biggest diff. Canelo is on borrowed time buddy. Heard me.
     
  12. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    That is literally the opposite of what Bud does (he starts slow and finishes strong). Who in God's name told you that? Because you can safely dismiss their opinions about everything, let alone boxing.
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Spence's conditioning and work rate was said to be his strength. In many of Spence's fights he'd dominated on work rate and cruised to a decision win. I agree with you but many were saying Bud is dangerous early while Spence's work rate would be the difference. By the way Bud was dangerous early, it played out a lot like Ryan Garcia vs Tank. Ryan trying to out volume Tank then got caught early being too aggressive. Exact same thing happened here. Spence was just too balls to the wall and got caught early which led to the stoppage, just like Ryan against Tank.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This. Take Kovalev, Ward, Crawford and Spence. One of those 4 fighters does not belong in the same group. And it's obvious which fighter it is.

    I'm not even sure Spence is better than Briedis or Gvozdyk. I understand that there is a bias towards American, Mexican and British fighters here on this forum. Fighters without large ethnic followings tend to not get the respect they deserve.
     
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  15. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed
    He’s always over relied on his physicality