Fighters you personally overrate?

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  1. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    I am sure everyone has fighters they know they overrate because they are such fans. Who are yours?

    As a UK fan I know I overrate the fighters who got me into the sport.

    I rate Chris Eubank as a H2H nightmare for many great fighters in history, but I know most US fans view him as a Brit odd ball. Nigel Benn, Michael Watson and Joe Calzaghe are other UK greats I rate highly but have obvious limitations. However I would happily defend them against all odds!

    Naseem Hamed would probabaly creep into my featherweight top 15/20 which I know if bonkers for such a stacked division but I just remember the excitement he generated.

    Larry Holmes, probably because I respect how he was the constant through the 80s while every other HW seemed to be hitting the crack pipe and the all you can eat buffet. I also respect how he built a successfully post fight business empire, even though this has nothing to do with his qualities as a fighter it still makes me bump him up a few places than others!
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If I am overrating them, then by definition I will be ignorant of the fact.
     
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  3. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    This.

    perhaps the question they meant to ask is "what boxer do you rate more highly than others?"
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think I probably overrate Gerry Cooney. I’m well aware that his accomplishments are very limited and that he left a lot to be desired. But when I look at his earlier fights I just saw so much unfulfilled potential. I know it’s pointless to say that he “ SHOULD have done more “ as this same phrase can be applied to any number of fighters, but I’ve always felt that way about him regardless.
     
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  5. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marlon Starling…I think he’s a handful for any welterweight when he’s on
     
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  6. Journeyman92

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    Emile Griffith probably
     
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  7. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Yes good point!
     
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  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Cooney deserves credit for going the Holmes route, rather than the much easier Weaver-Dokes-Coetzee-Page option. Obviously the payday helped, but he would have beaten all of those between 82-84.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    They tried to go the Weaver route but it got blocked.
     
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  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    The one Tillis got instead? Fair point but he could have sought the winner. But I suppose the answer is money but it could've been an even bigger fight if he's won the Wba crown first.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Yes Arum and the WBA blocked the fight. From memory Tillis was offered very good step aside money and a guarantee to fight the winner of Weaver - Cooney as well as ok coin for a tune up bout of his own but he didn't take it.
     
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  12. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chad Dawson. He showed glimpses though........
     
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  13. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    There's nothing I enjoy more than overrating John L. Sullivan
     
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  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    ask holmes if cooney was overrated
     
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  15. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Miguel Cotto man. I rank him high. As much so as p4p #3 if his generation behind may and PAC. Some say he was a weak champion with a questionable chin, questionable wins. Yet I would say to that, kick rocks!!!
     
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