Putting Crawford's Domination & Stoppage of Errol Spence Jr. Into Its Proper Perspective.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You've proven time and time again, that you have terrible judgement, which is frequently clouded by illusory perceptions. Also, you're not great at processing and comprehending what you're witnessing and coming away from it with any next level incredible observations. So we fundamentally disagree once again, and I don't feel like playing ring around the mulberry bush with you again, because it'll go nowhere but a stalemate.
     
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  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Spence is not a hype job. If he is then Crawfords win is meaningless. You cant call him a hype hob and then turn around and say this is Crawfords best win.
     
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    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Yep. Stalemate, we dont usually agree. I was actually surprised that we agreed on the result of this fight.
     
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    Who's saying this is Crawford's best win? It might be, or possible Porter, he certainly gave Bud the tougher fight, and Porter arguably should've picked up the win over Spence. I didn't write this thread to blow smoke up his ass, but to bring everyone back down to earth, and put the fight into its proper perspective.
     
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    Thank you Roy... and exactly!
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    The boxing world.
     
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    "The boxing world" is filled with reactionaries who buy into the hype far too often and are frequently incorrect in their assessments. For what it's worth, I'm not saying Spence is necessarily a hypejob in this article, merely that he was a carefully managed somewhat protected solid up and down fighter, who used his size advantage and pressure against featherfists to great effect, nothing more.
     
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    The same Roy Jones, but when the fight had not happened already.

    50/50 fight. The bests fighting the bests (Not the best fighting a hypejob).
     
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    Oh well... I guess that means I'm even more perceptive than the great Roy Jones.:rolleyes: Because this was never remotely a 50/50 fight.
     
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    I never disagreed with you in the fight not being 50/50. I never thought it was 50/50.

    But the fight not being 50/50, does not imply that Spence is a hypejob. What it implies is that Crawford is something absolutely unreal. A guy who has unified two divisions. You dont unify 2 divisions because "you fight low oposition" or because "you fight nobodies".

    It was very clear to me that Specne would become "nobody" after Crawford beating his ass in front of everybody. But I thought it would take more than just one day, tbh.
     
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    Dude you are not the only one who said Crawford beats him and not only beat him but stops him. Ive said the same thing. This doesn't however take away that Spence is a good boxer at 147. If you think he isnt you are in the small minority.
     
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    Has it ever occurred to you that the so called "boxing world" is nothing more than media blowing smoke up marketable fighter's asses (Mexicans, Americans, Brits) so that goofy casuals buy the fight because it's between two so called p4p superstars?
     
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  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    So they only get it right if its boxers you like. Got it .
     
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  14. CST80

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    You didn't real any of it did you? I said in my opening paragraph that I wasn't writing this to gloat. He's a good fighter, never said he wasn't. But he isn't a great or special fighter by any means. And I have no problem being in the small minority, that's where I've been most of my life and I'm more than comfortable with that location, because I'd rather be right than popular.
     
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    They have an obvious conflict of interest. You mean to tell me that the PBC house fighter doesn't have media blowing an ungodly amount of smoke up their fighter's asses? Come on now.
     
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