Putting Crawford's Domination & Stoppage of Errol Spence Jr. Into Its Proper Perspective.

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  1. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    Let's look at the last 5 years of Spence's career and you'll see how little he accomplished.

    2019 - Dragged up Mikey Garcia 2 divisions and couldn't knock him out.
    2019 - Went life and death against Porter.
    2020 - Won a close, but clear decision against Danny Garcia, who was 3-2 going into the fight against Spence.
    2021 - Had a big accident that probably damaged him physically and mentally.
    2022 - Stopped Ugas, whose biggest accomplishment was barely winning a decision against a very old Pacquiao.

    That's it. 4 fights in the last 5 years before Crawford. His best win was a razor thin decision against Porter, next to surviving a car crash.

    And somehow, people were ranking him in the top 5 P4P.
     
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  2. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Gary Antonio Russell, Wau'shee Warren, and Casimero also declined to fight him in December 2021.
     
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  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spences p4p was always inflated. Everyone was putting him on their lists after he beat Brook who was just knocked out and coming down in weight. I called it out when it was happening, and people called me dumb. What other fighter gets put on the p4p top 10 after winning their first title?
     
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  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Well this was a huge eye opening post that made me feel like a complete moron for being on the Spence train for a few years. I was picking Crawford by ko based on styles, but my analysis wasn’t anywhere near as deep as this. I’ve always thought you had one of the best boxing brains on this forum when you don’t get heated in the moment.
     
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  5. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas banned Full Member

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    Well said.

    It's a two horse race and there were plenty of experts giving Spence the edge going in.

    Even though Crawford has been in close to 20 world title fights, he never showed that he had that capability to do that to another undefeated dominant P4P fighter, that was some performance.

    From a logical perspective, fans should have had reservations on Crawford going into this (if they didn't they were going on hope alone), after the fight though, logically, no more reservations as he's proved all doubters wrong.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I appreciate the kind words from both of you. These posts actually touched me on some level, which isn't very easy.:lol: Made me feel like writing this was actually worth it.:beer-toast1:
     
  7. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Lol

    And so the discrediting begins.

    Just give credit where it's ****ing due.
     
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  8. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Well said.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Why would I give credit when I've been saying the same thing about Spence for almost a decade? There's nothing even remotely disputable in my opening posts.
     
  10. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    He's defeated an undefeated unified welterweight champion with some solid wins throughout his career on a huge stage for all the marbles - that's why.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah, that's great. Still... nothing I said was untrue.
     
  12. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Anyone can pick holes in any fighters resume throughout history.... sounds like you couldn't wait to get started on this one
     
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  13. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    You are beating your head against a wall of hatred and stubbornness. Not worth the effort.
     
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  14. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Spence's weight deffo played a part , but even if the fight was at 154lbs Crawford is just levels above him, Crawford is complete boxer and as I said so many times can beat Spence in a few ways , Spence only had pressure and size and only one way of trying to beat him , and both things didn't do nothing to stop Crawford dominate him.

    Crawford is a prime example of being naturally gifted and extremely dedicated to the craft and always being in the gym that is a deadly combination, he is a model professional athlete.. the guy deserves all the respect he is getting and more .. a special fighter ..
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I'm not picking holes, I'm giving an accurate and brutally honest assessment. But fine, if you want to convince yourself that a man whose best wins are a controversial SD over Shawn Porter and an 11th round TKO of a drained and badly damaged by GGG version of Kell Brook, is some ATG win. Knock yourself out.