Wilder says Spence was drained

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    It’s common knowledge that both men Crawford and Spence struggled to make 147 pounds. Wilder is expressing his opinion however like night follows day Spence is not making any excuses. In fact while he publicly congratulated Crawford on instagram he made it clear that even if he had an excuse he would never say because that’s not the way he was brought up. All he wants to do is rest and relax then prepare for the rematch in December whereby he looks to be one of those fighters like Joe Louis against Schmeling who get their revenge victory.
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It wasn't after the fact. The quote I posted was said at the same time.

    People who hate Wilder just got triggered and ignored everything positive he said about Bud
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I don’t know who is making these excuses but clearly it is not Spence or his team.
     
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  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    If or when Crawford destroys Spence at 154, will Spence still be drained or will you guys fall back on the car accident excuse? If Spence was the drooling idiot you paint him to be, what does that say about Porter, the guy Spence beat after his accident? Was Spence suddenly drained now but not before? Spence landed some shots early that seemed to hurt Crawford. Not bad for a brain scrambled zombie.

    I can’t wait for Crawford to clean out 154. You guys can continue celebrating the next dwarf jockey Inoue knocks out. It’s a different story when your opponent has KO power. Inoue is fighting guys who are smaller than most ladies in attendance. It’s fun to see the skill but more of a novelty to me as most of his opponents don’t have the ability to hurt him even if he gives them a free punch. Not having to worry about return fire is not a luxury most 147-154 guys enjoy. For this reason, I have to give Bud the PFP top spot over Inoue.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    How much better was Spence really than Fulton if at all?

    He had 2 belts to Spence's 3 but all but 2 of Spence's wins over world champions were career 140s who came up (and 135 Mikey) and were much better at 140 than they were at 147 in almost every instance.

    Lots of people had Fulton in their P4P top 10 on social media or were mad he wasn't ranked in the top 10. Not saying they had him as high as Spence but I can show you videos claiming he deserved to be P4P#1 if he beat Inoue. They weren't saying the same about Bivol after he beat the then P4P#1 Clenelo.

    FTR, he was never in my P4P top 10 and Spence was. But if he is better than Fulton how much better in reality is he?

    Both he and Spence got utterly outclassed and battered and humiliated. Fulton looked intimated as soon as he felt that Kanagawa leprechaun power and completely befuddled by Inoue's Japanes slickness. Spence just looked clueless and not even world level.


    And it was Inoue's first fight at the weight and he was facing a bigger man. I think Spence is naturally bigger than Crawford but in terms of ring weight and size they looked the same and Crawford has been up 147 for five years and had 7 fights at the weight compared to Inoue's 0 at 122.

    Also Crawford had a 2'' reach advantage against Spence whereas Fulton had a 3'' one on Inoue.

    To be fair, Inoue had home advantage against Fulton though.

    I'm not too sure exactly what I think about this but I'm just speaking out loud because you can't hear thoughts. I'd say Spence>>Fulton but, as said, there are other things to factor in and even if he is better it's not by that much IMO
     
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  6. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did he not say he was Drained before the fact? indeed he did & that's what made it an underhanded comment,

    A hater like him just couldn't help himself not to mention him being wrong AGAIN & looking like a damn fool though you would think that he'd be used to that occurrence by now.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Spence is not the type to make excuses and has not made any. He lost fair and square to the better man on the night. he felt his timing was off but looks forward to the rematch because he knows he is a lot better than he displayed on the night. I am a big Spence fan like you and Spence is giving Crawford credit for the victory. Those on here not giving Crawford credit merely want to claim P4P number 1 for the likes of Inoue and Usyk.

    This what EJ in his own words say:


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  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Like I said, it was one fight too late and he was inactive. Considering that Crawford already mangled and disfigured the corpse of Spence, I'd say it doesn't matter at this point whether they fight at 147, 154, or 160. People are calling for Spence to retire immediately.

    Like most casual boxing fans, you clearly do not follow the lower weight classes. Donaire, Moloney, Butler, and Rodriguez were all bigger than Inoue. In fact. Butler said that he was surprised by how "tiny" Inoue was when he met him at the press conference. Fulton was also bigger. I don't care who's your P4P #1. Doesn't change the fact that Spence was a corpse. But it's strange that you denigrate Inoue as a fighter and the lower divisions as a whole and still install him at #2. You seem demented.

    And you still haven't answered why Spence wants the rematch at 154 without the belts or the Undisputed title on the line.
     
  9. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spence is class unlike his stablemate Jermell, he could learn a thing or too from how he conducts himself in general.
     
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  10. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    You know the answer to that question. It’s his biggest potential payday and beating Crawford is the fastest way to get Spence’s career on track. Both guys struggled to make 147 and Crawford is pushing 36. If Crawford was devious, he would call for a rematch at 147 but I think he’s confident enough to realize he could beat Spence at any weight.

    I like watching smaller weight classes but the tiebreaker for me is power and I prefer lightweight and up, even though there are more amazingly skilled boxers at lower weights. Below 126 just doesn’t do it for me, the guys are too small, some might be dwarfs or midgets. They should fight at the circus. I still watch but it’s not nearly as enjoyable. Like watching a (skilled) little league game versus MLB.

    If Fury grows a set and fights Usyk, and Usyk wins, he’s my PFP. Until then, Bud deserves the top spot until he doesn’t.
     
  11. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Fulton went for the bag and Japan's not known for robbing foreign fighters. They did rob Ioka and Murata big time, though.

    Also, Fulton was treated very well and embraced by the Japanese. He got more love than he ever did in Philly or the states. They cheered him loudly when he entered the ring and they cheered him loudly when he walked back to the dressing room. Japan defineitely ain't hostile territory for fighters.
     
  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    If you can’t make the weight don’t fight at the weight, simple as that.
     
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  13. Pimp C

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    I always knew Spence wouldnt make any excuses and would be gracious in defeat, he's a classy guy. It's a shame that some people here want to try and discredit Crawford's great win because of an agenda.
     
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  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Spence is class. As for Jermell many don’t like the brothers because they consider them brash. What must be acknowledged though is Jermell is a really good fighter who earned the undisputed title.
     
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  15. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Even Wilder the former heavyweight champ saying Spence was drained, yet the boxing experts on ESB saying otherwise. Heck even Bud knows Spence was drained