Post your TOP 10 P4P list

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Here is mine:

    1. Inoue
    2. Crawford
    3. Usyk
    4. Beterbiev (badly underrated on most P4P lists)
    5. Bivol
    6. Estrada
    7. Canelo
    8. Lopez
    9. Jermell Charlo
    10. Lomachenko (he deserved to win against Haney)

    #1 and #2 are close, but I think Inoue edges it, because Spence looked like a faded fighter. His timing was off because of his inactivity over the past several years. Beterbiev and Bivol need to fight, but old Arum won't let it happen, just like he selfishly held back Crawford for years. Lopez is in my opinion a top fighter when he's focused, he had just one poor showing, but he's been linear champ in two weight divisions. Jermell is a top fighter.

    Davis and Stevenson are overhyped, unproven fighters who have not yet earned P4P consideration by facing top opponents. They need to fight each other, then the winner would have a legit claim to P4P status.

    Tyson Fury is not a top ten P4P fighter, and is a disgrace to the heavyweight division. If he were the same size as Usyk, he'd be beaten by any top 25 heavyweight.
     
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  2. fruitandnutcase

    fruitandnutcase Member Full Member

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    Bud
    Inoue
    Usyk
    Canelo
    Teo
    Haney
    Loma
    Jermell
    Tank
    Beterbiev

    No idea how Bivol is breaking into these lists tbh
     
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  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    1) Naoya Inoue
    2) Oleksandr Usyk
    3) Terence Crawford
    4) Dmitry Bivol
    5) Artur Beterbiev
    6) Vasiliy Lomachenko
    7) Clenelo Alvaroids
    8) Juan Francisco Estrada
    9) Kazuto Ioka
    10) Tyson Fury
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    1. Oleksandr Usyk
    2. Naoya Inoue
    3. Terence Crawford
    4. Canelo Alvarez
    5. Dmitry Bivol
    6. Juan Francisco Estrada
    7. Teofimo Lopez
    8. Kazuto Ioka
    9. Gennadiy Golovkin
    10. Kenshiro Teraji
     
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  5. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crawford
    Usyk
    Inoue
    Canelo
    Beterbiev
    Teofimo
    Lomachenko
    Bivol
    (from here not sure)
    Estrada & Haney perhaps. Or even Shakur in place of Haney, because I really didn’t think Haney beat Lomachenko.

    No particular order for the top 3.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    1.crawford
    2.inoue
    3.usyk
    4.bivol
    5.canelo
    6.teo
    7.jermell
    8.beterbiev
    9.haney
    10.shakur
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1 Inoue
    2 Crawford
    3 Usyk
    4 Bivol
    5 Alvarez
    6 Beterbiev
    7 Estrada
    8 Lopez
    9 Haney
    10 Fury

    I also like you thought Lomachenko beat Haney but he officially lost, so I have to take him out of the top 10 based on that even though I don't want to.

    Fury I do not like him at all but I think he deserves a spot in the 10.

    Estrada seems to be forgotten about by most fans and I don't know why ? He has one of the best resumes in the last few years.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Crawford
    Inoue
    Usyk


    The rest..
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why not ? Bivol has 2 back to back stand out wins/performances over Canelo who was P4P top 3, and Ramirez who was 44-0. Bivol won both of these fights in a very impressive manner, not to mention Bivol has 10 title defences in which he has won all of them pretty convincingly.

    I can't see how logically you can't have Bivol in the top 10 ?
     
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  10. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    1- Inoue
    2- Crawford
    3- Usyk

    4- Canelo
    5- Beterbiev
    6- Bivol
    7- Fury

    8- Lopez
    9- Haney
    10- Lomachenko
     
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  11. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    1.Crawford
    2.Inoue
    3.Usyk
    4.Canelo
    5.Bivol
    6.Beterbiev
    7.Estrada
    8.Stevenson
    9.Lopez
    10.Loma/Haney

    I rank Stevenson higher than others but I think he’s the most skilled fighter in the best division right now.
     
  12. Snails

    Snails Active Member Full Member

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    The amount of people who have Lomachenko in their top 10 is baffling
     
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  13. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Spence Jr
    (I'm joking.)
    1. Usyk
    2. Canelo
    3. Bivol
    4. Beterbiev
    5. Crawford
    6. Tank
    7. Fury
    8. Inoue
    9. Haney
    10. Jermell
     
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  14. fruitandnutcase

    fruitandnutcase Member Full Member

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    Thanks for replying to me, as I wanted to sound off on this NPC behaviour-

    No one's actually going over this pick in their minds, they're just going by Ring, and as much as I love Ring, they're dead wrong on this

    Bivol has no standout performance against an elite 175er in or around their prime. There's no Beterbiev or Gvozdyk or anything. He has wins over B-listers and his biggest win to date is against a man... coming up. A 168er. A small 168er. I don't think Bivol would've beaten Canelo were they the same dimensions. Canelo cherrypicked Kovalev, who was having an Indian Summer at the time, and when he fought a legit light heavyweight he was exposed. Anything above 168 is merely raiding territory for Canelo - 168 is his cap

    So... Bivol's lone standout performance is beating a guy well out of his natural weight class, in which he used his superior size, dimensions and punch resistance to full effect, and other than that he's never unified, fought weak WBA mandatories, has-been light heavyweights, continental-level guys and people with heavily padded records. Zurdo's 44-0 means about as much as Munguia's 40whatever

    The only thing going for Bivol is the eye-test, and as Saturday proved, as if this even needed proving, the eye-test is heavily influenced by the level of competition in front of you

    Putting Bivol over guys like Teo who have gone up weight classes and fought elite opposition at every turn is shameful. Joey Maxim is historically regarded as a relatively weak light heavyweight champion. This dude didn't become some P4P monster overnight for beating a Ray Robinson who was winning amateur titles at featherweight

    And look, I prefer Beterbiev to Bivol, but I honestly think Bivol would show him levels + youth should they fight. But P4P needs some kind of deep thinking or at least consistent logic going into it
     
  15. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Inoue
    2. Crawford
    3. Beterbiev
    4. Usyk
    5. Teofimo
    6. Fury
    7. Bivol
    8. Canelo
    9. Tank Davis
    10. Jermell Charlo

    Haney and Loma are both overrated to high heaven

    Shakur is good but doesn’t have any standout wins or achievements yet

    Estrada is yesterday’s news