Tank Davis and the issues with PBC's approach to building stars

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  1. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The same way people are talking down about Tank is the same way they talked about Crawford. Now they hugging on his nuts like a pair of vice grips.
     
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  2. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PBC are the smoke and mirrors champs. What’s funny is that the same people who call Julio Cesar Chavez overrated because “he fought nothing but bums”, will act like Davis is a legend. PBC is very crafty with their process of building fighters up. Eventually though, they all fall really really hard. Wilder and Spence being the most recognizable. Tank will fall too, if he ever gets in the ring with the guys he’s supposed to.
     
  3. Farl Crampton

    Farl Crampton New Member Full Member

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    Great post and said it better than I did, Tank has barely faced any legitimately world champion-level opponents in his career. Plenty of corruption in boxing and Tank's "three weight world champion" is one of the most ridiculous claims I've seen in recent years. His only legitimate title has come at 130. I'd forgotten about the debacle with all those WBA titles (especially the Cuellar fight) and the Fonseca fight was a disgrace.
     
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  4. African Cobra

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    You are an idiot.
     
  5. Farl Crampton

    Farl Crampton New Member Full Member

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    Exactly, Chavez did fight a lot of bums. He also fought some top-tier opposition in his prime, something Tank hasn't done yet. Tank, Spence, and Wilder are the three biggest stars that have been built up under PBC in recent years. Spence and Wilder were annihilated in their biggest fights and the same is likely to happen to Tank if he doesn't take a step up in competition. He always gets outworked early on against lower-tier opposition when trying to find openings. What happens when he faces a genuinely top-level boxer at their natural weight? We'll see but again, this isn't coming anytime soon and we have PBC and Tank to blame for that.
     
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  6. Farl Crampton

    Farl Crampton New Member Full Member

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    Have never fanboyed about Crawford or "hugged on his nuts like a pair of vice grips", your sensitivity about Tank's achievements is showing. Even so, Crawford's resume pre-Spence outshines Tank's easily. He beat everybody there was to beat at an extremely weak 140 before demolishing the best opponents available to him at Top Rank (while all that "wrong side of the street" rubbish was being parroted around). Signing the Top Rank contract extension was his own fault and now he has less time to further establish himself as a great fighter before his age catches up with him. Meanwhile, Tank hasn't even stepped up to fight a legitimate champion at 135. It's been almost 4 years since he moved up to lightweight and he still hasn't fought a world champion at the weight! It's embarrassing that they're promoting him as the face of boxing.
     
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  7. Manfred

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    If you ain't never did that then why you on here trying to justify it.
     
  8. Farl Crampton

    Farl Crampton New Member Full Member

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    We don't know the details about the contract they offered Haney. He's been open that he wants to move up to 140 for his next fight, so unless the contract is at 140 without a rehydration clause or other special conditions, it doesn't make too much sense for him to take that fight.

    Let's give Tank the benefit of the doubt and say that he offered Haney a fight at 140, no extra conditions, and that Haney is ducking him. Great, he still has a lot of great opponents out there for him. He can do the same thing that Haney is doing and move up to fight Matias, another champ at 140. Shouldn't be any promotional issues with that since he's fought on Showtime several times. I'll give him plenty of credit if he takes that fight next.
     
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  9. Farl Crampton

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    Because Tank is easily the most manufactured star in boxing and it's ridiculous seeing people defend him as some sort of world beater when he's done nothing to justify it. He makes AJ's rise to the top look impressive.
     
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  10. Manfred

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    Right now you doing the thing that you said you didn't do. Hating on a fighter with half baked information. That's the same way Crawford was talked about. He ain't fought nobody, he ducking, he ain't on Spence's level. All that yak. Now, you on here saying the same things about Tank. Tank is the real deal, he ain't not joke. When him, Haney and Stevenson was going round and round, he called both thier asses out and I ain't heard nothing yet. He stopped Leo and everybody said Leo was too small, yet Leo was bigger than he was in the ring. Nobody said a word when Inoue came up and stopped Steph. People use them statements when it convenient. Tank came up and stopped Barrios, all of a sudden Barrios is a bum, A bum who was a champion at the time and his only loss was to Thurman. Loma tried to catch Tank when he was green, but he don't want that smoke now. Tank is a great fighter because he finds a way to win. He beat Cruz with one hand. He got pass Garcia's length and stopped him with a body shot. He set up that fool Rolly and cold cocked his ass. He beat the brakes off Pedraza in way better fashion than Loma did. Hit Gamboa so hard, he knocked him outta his shoes. Had Hector Garcia complaining that he couldn't see. Tank is no joke and deserves his props.
     
  11. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. And yes, Chavez may have fought bums, but if you take out those bums, he still has a legendary career. Chávez holds records for the most total successful defenses of world titles (27, shared with Omar Narváez), most title fight victories and fighters beaten for the title (both at 31), and most title fights (37); he has the second most title defenses won by knockout (21, after Joe Louiswith 23). Most people don’t understand that he took many stay busy fights, and those fights against nobody were what kept him sharp and ready at all times. That’s the difference.
     
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  12. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

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    Tanks biggest win is an instagram model. Be real about it. Without Garcia, he doesn’t even sniff 500g ppvs.
     
  13. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

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    Tank could easily have the best resume if he wanted it. Lopez, Haney, Loma, Shakur, etc. He’s clearly not willing to risk it though.
     
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  14. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dude bud was beating champions, tank don’t fight nothing but unrated nobodies. Guys who have never won a title, never beaten a champion, never been a champion, never beat anybody notable ever.. the best he got is a small Leo Santa Cruz who made his name at 122/126, 2 weight classes below. Tank ain’t no champion has never won a title besides vs padraza in 2017. Tank a hypejob
     
  15. Manfred

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