Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua vs. Robert Gabriel Helenius

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 7, 2023.


AJ or The Nordic Nightmare?

Poll closed Aug 12, 2023.

  1. Joshua on points

    9 vote(s)
    7.9%

  2. Joshua by stoppage

    85 vote(s)
    74.6%

  3. Draw

    4 vote(s)
    3.5%

  4. Helenius on points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Helenius by stoppage

    16 vote(s)
    14.0%
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  1. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How on earth can that walking heart attack have an ego. Even funnier is that he writes about boxing when sumo wrestling should be more his thing. Not a fan.
     
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  2. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a bad opponent simply because Washington, who already KO'd Helenius years ago, is fighting on the undercard and could easily have been elevated to main event. But nope, even Gerald Washington isn't shot enough, Hearn needs to stoop even lower and go for shopworn chinny Helenius, who literally just had a fight a few days ago. That's not even mentioning that Hrgovic could have been elevated either.

    Agree that Joshua needs to win by stoppage.
     
    DaRealJT, Aug 7, 2023
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Is this really it? Helenius vs AJ?
     
    Rumsfeld, Aug 7, 2023
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  4. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Let's hope not.
     
    The Professor, Aug 7, 2023
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd rather see this then see him not fight at all.
     
    Rumsfeld, Aug 7, 2023
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  6. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty ****ed if true but what do expect of these charlatans?
     
    Dangerwood84, Aug 7, 2023
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    His writing is quite pedestrian. As too was Larry Merchant's. Both among their respective era's most well known (and considered by some finest) boxing scribes for the life of me how that came to be the case is a mystery.
     
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  8. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If AJ get's beat it would be very embarrassing.
     
    Dangerwood84, Aug 7, 2023
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :deal:

    A prime Helenius of course would have been a major concern with that hammering 1-2 either catching AJ coming in or sniping him on the outside. Now though, Helenius is slower than ever - and he was always kind of slow.

    Stoppage is mandatory, for optics. Anything else makes Joshua's third march to contention look a total sham.

    The opponent choice itself on five days notice is fine. But he's painted into a corner; with this particular opponent choice he is setting himself up in a must KO situation.
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 7, 2023
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  10. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure it would be as embarrassing as being stopped by a little, fat guy at Madison Square Garden when you are supposed to be there to showcase your talent to the US market? But then again?
     
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  11. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That little fat guy could fight like ****. However the aesethics of the spectactle did produce a lot of ridicule from the casuals.
     
    Dangerwood84, Aug 7, 2023
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  12. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Yeah if that's the alternative, I'll take it. But Chisora would be a better choice.
     
    The Professor, Aug 7, 2023
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  13. DavHQ

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    tbf Fury would never have balls to face helenius, so you should keep it shut. Helenius would kill Ngannou .
     
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  14. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight was meant to showcase Joshua to the US market. That he hasn't fought there since demonstrates what a disaster it was.

    As for casuals, that's where the majority of the money comes from. Particularly in big fights.
     
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    like a boss, Aug 7, 2023
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  15. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Helenius is shot. A total embarrass if it is him.
     
    vast, Aug 7, 2023
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